Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
Did you miss your activation email?
October 25, 2014, 11:47:35 am
HomePredMockPollEVCalcAFEWIKIHelpLogin Register
News: Please delete your old personal messages.

+  Atlas Forum
|-+  Election Archive
| |-+  2008 Elections
| | |-+  Tell me...
« previous next »
Pages: [1] Print
Author Topic: Tell me...  (Read 1275 times)
Хahar
Xahar
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 38877
Bangladesh


View Profile
« on: January 28, 2008, 07:48:45 pm »
Ignore

Right now, since Kucinich has dropped out, I don't have a candidate. I'm pretty sold against Clinton, but I like the other three.

So, Obama/Edwards/Gravel supporters, tell me: why should I support your candidate?
Logged

Update reading list

The idea of parodying the preceding Atlasian's postings is laughable, of course, but not for reasons one might expect.
War on Want
Evilmexicandictator
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 7687
Uzbekistan


Political Matrix
E: -6.19, S: -8.00

View Profile
« Reply #1 on: January 28, 2008, 07:51:21 pm »
Ignore

I am a Obama/Edwards supporter that leans to Edwards, and I support them because I can't stand Clinton's politics of hatred and divisiveness and her fakeness. She is not the right candidate to lead the Democratic Party to the future.
Logged
WalterMitty
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 21018


Political Matrix
E: 1.68, S: -2.26

View Profile
« Reply #2 on: January 28, 2008, 07:52:00 pm »
Ignore

youre 13.  it really doesnt matter who you support.

just sayin'
Logged


I just slept for 11 hours, so I should need a nap today
CultureKing
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 3218
United States


View Profile
« Reply #3 on: January 28, 2008, 07:53:16 pm »
Ignore

I was on the fence with Obama/Edwards, basically they are both good but you need to be practical. Edwards is not going to win, and Obama actually has a chance so go for him. Then again you can't vote so practically speaking it doesn't matter unless you volunteer like none other in the next week.
Logged

Econ: -6.50, Social: -5.23
Хahar
Xahar
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 38877
Bangladesh


View Profile
« Reply #4 on: January 28, 2008, 07:56:19 pm »
Ignore

youre 13.  it really doesnt matter who you support.

just sayin'

It could matter in 4 years, when I can.
Logged

Update reading list

The idea of parodying the preceding Atlasian's postings is laughable, of course, but not for reasons one might expect.
War on Want
Evilmexicandictator
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 7687
Uzbekistan


Political Matrix
E: -6.19, S: -8.00

View Profile
« Reply #5 on: January 28, 2008, 07:57:11 pm »
Ignore

youre 13.  it really doesnt matter who you support.

just sayin'
Oh yeah one vote will make all the difference too...
Logged
Хahar
Xahar
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 38877
Bangladesh


View Profile
« Reply #6 on: January 28, 2008, 07:58:23 pm »
Ignore

youre 13.  it really doesnt matter who you support.

just sayin'
Oh yeah one vote will make all the difference too...

You could say that about anyone.
Logged

Update reading list

The idea of parodying the preceding Atlasian's postings is laughable, of course, but not for reasons one might expect.
Gabu
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 28562
Canada


Political Matrix
E: -4.32, S: -6.52

View Profile
« Reply #7 on: January 28, 2008, 08:00:57 pm »
Ignore

youre 13.  it really doesnt matter who you support.

just sayin'

you live in massachusetts.  it really doesnt matter who you support.

just sayin'
Logged



"To me, 'underground' sounds like subway trains.  That's the only sound I associate with 'underground'." - Everett
WalterMitty
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 21018


Political Matrix
E: 1.68, S: -2.26

View Profile
« Reply #8 on: January 28, 2008, 08:07:10 pm »
Ignore

youre 13.  it really doesnt matter who you support.

just sayin'

you live in massachusetts.  it really doesnt matter who you support.

just sayin'

in the primary it might.
Logged


I just slept for 11 hours, so I should need a nap today
Volatilesaff
MATCHU[D]
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 6341
United States


View Profile
« Reply #9 on: January 28, 2008, 08:10:26 pm »
Ignore

In any case, if your really keen on knowing what the candidates are about go to their websites. Theres a ton of things I could tell you about Obama....I just dont know what issues matter to you more. All their websites have everything you need to know...not to sound lazy.
Logged

Warren '16!
Frodo
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 13621
United States


View Profile WWW
« Reply #10 on: January 28, 2008, 08:12:15 pm »
Ignore

youre 13.  it really doesnt matter who you support.

just sayin'

It could matter in 4 years, when I can.

Will you be 18 by the time election day in 2012 rolls around? 
Logged

Verily
Cuivienen
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 16806


Political Matrix
E: 1.81, S: -6.78

View Profile
« Reply #11 on: January 28, 2008, 08:14:10 pm »
Ignore

I support Barack Obama.

I support Barack Obama because he has been the only candidate consistent on the issue of ethics reform. He has proposed powerful legislation in the Senate, working together with prominent anti-corruption Republicans (I may dislike Tom Coburn, but he does have something going for him), which would substantially increase the level of oversight in American politics and reduce earmarking to the extremely rare process it was two decades ago. As President, he would be able to set the agenda for Congress and work with reformists in Congress to craft legislation; as we have seen in the Bush Presidency, Presidents have far greater powers of pressure and persuasion than Senators, even when Senators can vote on bills while Presidents cannot.

I support Barack Obama because he has proposed the only rational foreign policy approach, to use war only a last resort and only against nations and organizations which are true threats to American security. He stands against excessive ties with the Israeli government, the Saudi government, the Pakistani government, and others, and he was willing to speak against our support of Musharraf's regime long before the Johnny-come-latelies of the current day. Obama possesses a distinct understanding of foreign policy that no other candidate possesses (though Bill Richardson does), stemming from a willingness, so rare in American politics, to see the ramifications of our actions from a foreigner's, as well as American's, point of view.

Those are the two primary reasons I support Barack Obama, and I see a distinct difference from John Edwards on both. Edwards does not act, he reacts. He is angry about Iraq now, but he does not have a foreign policy plan or vision for the future. He is angry about corruption now, but he did nothing when he had the opportunity to oppose it in the Senate, and nor does he have any legislative ideas to pursue regarding it in the future.

(There are also issues of rhetoric and economics I disagree with Edwards on, but they are less important.)
Logged
Хahar
Xahar
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 38877
Bangladesh


View Profile
« Reply #12 on: January 28, 2008, 08:16:00 pm »
Ignore

youre 13.  it really doesnt matter who you support.

just sayin'

It could matter in 4 years, when I can.

Will you be 18 by the time election day in 2012 rolls around? 

Yes.
Logged

Update reading list

The idea of parodying the preceding Atlasian's postings is laughable, of course, but not for reasons one might expect.
perdedor
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 2628
United States


View Profile
« Reply #13 on: January 28, 2008, 08:49:44 pm »
Ignore

Of the three you mentioned, Obama is the only candidate with a realistic chance of being nominated as opposed to Clinton. In other words, you could take the futile route and support a candidate with no realistic chance at being nominated (as you were doing with Kucinich) and have to spend the time droning on about how crappy a candidate Clinton is, and threaten to vote Green. Or you can just vote for Obama and if Clinton is still nominated...then you can at least say you did everything you could to stop the Clinton candidacy. Obama's politics are tolerable and his chances are good.
Logged

Хahar
Xahar
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 38877
Bangladesh


View Profile
« Reply #14 on: January 28, 2008, 11:59:06 pm »
Ignore

I support Barack Obama.

I support Barack Obama because he has been the only candidate consistent on the issue of ethics reform. He has proposed powerful legislation in the Senate, working together with prominent anti-corruption Republicans (I may dislike Tom Coburn, but he does have something going for him), which would substantially increase the level of oversight in American politics and reduce earmarking to the extremely rare process it was two decades ago. As President, he would be able to set the agenda for Congress and work with reformists in Congress to craft legislation; as we have seen in the Bush Presidency, Presidents have far greater powers of pressure and persuasion than Senators, even when Senators can vote on bills while Presidents cannot.

I support Barack Obama because he has proposed the only rational foreign policy approach, to use war only a last resort and only against nations and organizations which are true threats to American security. He stands against excessive ties with the Israeli government, the Saudi government, the Pakistani government, and others, and he was willing to speak against our support of Musharraf's regime long before the Johnny-come-latelies of the current day. Obama possesses a distinct understanding of foreign policy that no other candidate possesses (though Bill Richardson does), stemming from a willingness, so rare in American politics, to see the ramifications of our actions from a foreigner's, as well as American's, point of view.

Those are the two primary reasons I support Barack Obama, and I see a distinct difference from John Edwards on both. Edwards does not act, he reacts. He is angry about Iraq now, but he does not have a foreign policy plan or vision for the future. He is angry about corruption now, but he did nothing when he had the opportunity to oppose it in the Senate, and nor does he have any legislative ideas to pursue regarding it in the future.

(There are also issues of rhetoric and economics I disagree with Edwards on, but they are less important.)

Thank you.
Logged

Update reading list

The idea of parodying the preceding Atlasian's postings is laughable, of course, but not for reasons one might expect.
Wakie
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 3809


View Profile
« Reply #15 on: January 29, 2008, 08:56:22 am »
Ignore

Point 1 - It is gratifying to see 13 y/o's interested in politics but Mitty's point is valid, your opinion doesn't matter.  In 4 years the issues will have changed and so will you.  4 years after that ... same deal.  Truthfully though .... you're about 12 years away from actually be significant (because then you can work for a campaign).  And 20 years away from REALLY mattering to them (because then you have disposably income to donate).

Point 2 - Whether the candidate is Obama or Clinton you really should support 'em in the General unless you want 4 more years of the GOP.

Point 3 - Ethics reform is a red herring.  There are seperation of powers in this country and the executive branch cannot reform the legislative.

Point 4 - Obama's position on foreign policy is not unique.  In fact it is pretty much the standard Dem platform.
Logged
Pages: [1] Print 
« previous next »
Jump to:  


Login with username, password and session length

Logout

Powered by SMF 1.1.20 | SMF © 2013, Simple Machines