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Speed of Sound
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« on: February 02, 2008, 03:17:55 PM »

I have been calling for this for months. We havent passed a budget in a year and half, lets kill it already.
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« Reply #1 on: February 02, 2008, 03:52:47 PM »

I seem to be turning into a full-time lobbyist: I encourage Senators to either pass this Bill, or begin passing Budgets again.
The latter, I remind all of my colleagues, includes dealing with inflation, economic demographics, and and sifting through every bill with any spending in it in the last year and a half. Any takers? Wink
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« Reply #2 on: February 02, 2008, 05:35:29 PM »

Are we going to give up on the budget this easily?

Back in 2005, the Atlasian Government successfully passed the October 2005 Budget by a vote of 6-3 (i'm quite sure). The Senate didn't give up on it back then, why should we now? Are we going to use the same old excuse we haven't had one in nearly 2 years we should kill it off?

I wouldn't be surprised if the Senate did.
Then you go for it. If you chair the committee, Ill be on the committee and we can work it out. I think youll be surprised how bad we fail.
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« Reply #3 on: February 02, 2008, 08:46:37 PM »


I doubt that would even happen Senator because you guys would vote it down anyway.
Thats because we would need a majority to agree on made up numbers. It just isnt do-able, but Ill work with ya if you REALLY want to.
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« Reply #4 on: February 12, 2008, 10:24:29 PM »

This amendment only legalizes what we've already been doing for almost 2 years. Thusly, the passing of this amendment is, in fact, the killing of this bill secretly. I will vote against the amendment, and urge my fellow senators to do the same.
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« Reply #5 on: February 13, 2008, 07:33:32 PM »

Nay
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« Reply #6 on: February 13, 2008, 09:17:38 PM »

Ah! Senator! Welcome back to the chamber! Glad to see you!...........


Well, it s been fun! See you next week!
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« Reply #7 on: February 22, 2008, 12:12:27 PM »

Great, so now we get a chance to vote to legalize what we've been doing for two years and continue to do nothing, or just be okay with it being illegal and keep doing it anyway. When it comes to change here, I guess "No We Can't".
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« Reply #8 on: February 23, 2008, 06:42:37 PM »


FTR, I do as well.
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« Reply #9 on: February 23, 2008, 08:10:47 PM »

*sigh*

Speed of Sound, for someone who complained monstrously about the Senate not doing anything about the budget, you are certainly being obstructionist about it.

Anyway, Senators have forty-eight hours to volunteer to assume sponsorship, more or less.
I wanna kill this bill because I wanted to kill the budget. I hate this new bill because any senator can work on the budget whenever NOW. This doesnt do anything. Nobody cares that the senate hasnt done sh**t, and any senator can do whatever with the budget right now whenever, and we could pass whenever and no one would care. Theres no need to change the legal wording to make it 'legal'. All the amendment did was kill the chance to rid ourselves of the budget we havent passed in two and a half years.
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« Reply #10 on: February 23, 2008, 08:25:31 PM »

*sigh*

Speed of Sound, for someone who complained monstrously about the Senate not doing anything about the budget, you are certainly being obstructionist about it.

Anyway, Senators have forty-eight hours to volunteer to assume sponsorship, more or less.
I wanna kill this bill because I wanted to kill the budget. I hate this new bill because any senator can work on the budget whenever NOW. This doesnt do anything. Nobody cares that the senate hasnt done sh**t, and any senator can do whatever with the budget right now whenever, and we could pass whenever and no one would care. Theres no need to change the legal wording to make it 'legal'. All the amendment did was kill the chance to rid ourselves of the budget we havent passed in two and a half years.

Your purism is never going to pass the Senate and the population. It is time to compromise on the issue.
This isnt a compromise. This is what we already do.


It doesnt matter anyway. You dont have to be bothered by me for much longer. Just hold out some new puppet senators endorsement until Im gone and then you dont have to hear from me.
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« Reply #11 on: February 23, 2008, 09:24:25 PM »

*sigh*

Speed of Sound, for someone who complained monstrously about the Senate not doing anything about the budget, you are certainly being obstructionist about it.

Anyway, Senators have forty-eight hours to volunteer to assume sponsorship, more or less.
I wanna kill this bill because I wanted to kill the budget. I hate this new bill because any senator can work on the budget whenever NOW.

100% incorrect.  To work on the budget, Atlasia would require a GM, because such a rule is enshrined in the constitution.  Any budget worked on and passed without a GM would rightly be declared unconstitutional.  I refuse to further work on a budget until it is legal to do so, because I do not want the work (that I am more than willing to do) get thrown  out the window by people like SoS and Ebowed.

We cannot have a budget, because the constitution does not allow us to have a budget because of the wording of the provision requiring us to have a budget.  It's a painfully bad way to have something in the constitution.

Fix it.  Don't just sit there.  Do something to make the situation better.  If my attempt at the budget fails, then I will gladly switch sides and kill the budget indefinitely.  But I'm unwilling to write it off until I'm given the opportunity to try.
'Fraid I cant do much of anything, as Im all but out of here. Also, dont refer to me in the third person. Its just plain wierd. Cheesy I refuse to back this as, instead of adding the GM, it gives less reason to re-instate one, which would be unfortunate.
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