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« on: February 09, 2008, 05:31:51 PM »

Any news from Washington yet?
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« Reply #1 on: February 09, 2008, 06:24:40 PM »

Ha Jesus, remember when you bet your precinct would be stronger for Obama than mine?

Yes!! Cry Cry

It only had 16 people so it's a pretty small sample... Was yours the entire caucus location or just your single precinct?

Anyway, I don't really remember the split that well, hold on...

We had:
14 whites: 11 Obama, 3 Clinton
2 blacks: 1 Obama, 1 Clinton

8 men: 7 Obama, 1 Clinton
8 women: 5 Obama, 3 Clinton

Anyway, I was the tally clerk. I got to count the votes, haha.

So 20-0 Obama, right?

Haha. Smiley

I thought Washington had their primary today and their caucus on February 19?  I'm confused.

Other way around. And the primary is even more of a beauty contest than Florida was.
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« Reply #2 on: February 09, 2008, 08:14:50 PM »


65.8% for Obama so far Smiley

27.4% reporting
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« Reply #3 on: February 09, 2008, 08:18:30 PM »


Louisiana, I meant, though I don't remember. Do polls close at eight central or eastern time?

8 Central. They've got another forty minutes.
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« Reply #4 on: February 09, 2008, 08:22:08 PM »

CNN now reporting 67-32-1 (Uncommitted) in Washington with 30% in.
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« Reply #5 on: February 09, 2008, 08:24:58 PM »

CNN really is retarded. They were trying to spin it like Clinton had a chance in Washington

All the better for Obama, then.

Anyway, same numbers, but up to 35% reporting.
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« Reply #6 on: February 09, 2008, 08:28:02 PM »

Was there any exit/entrance [whatever you want to call them] polls from Nebraska or Washington? Or both?

I think they stopped bothering with entrance polls after they were so far off in Nevada. Of course, this isn't all that surprising; it's much easier to poll when you know what the demographics should look like, as in Iowa. These other caucus states have never been relevant.
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« Reply #7 on: February 09, 2008, 08:31:39 PM »

Anyway, Nebraska is 69-31 for Obama with 73% in. Washington is 67-32 for Obama with 35% in. Louisiana polls close in about half an hour.
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« Reply #8 on: February 09, 2008, 08:47:46 PM »

48% now in from WA, still the same 67-32 result. Obama has gained marginally.
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« Reply #9 on: February 09, 2008, 08:50:43 PM »

Politico has a handful of votes from Louisiana already even though polls haven't closed yet...
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« Reply #10 on: February 09, 2008, 08:55:18 PM »

Now 57% in from Washington, margin unchanged.
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« Reply #11 on: February 09, 2008, 09:04:51 PM »

Exit polls in LA say 53-45 Obama. He also did better among women than men Huh (54-45 among women, 52-45 among men; I guess the racist-and-sexist vote turned out.)
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« Reply #12 on: February 09, 2008, 09:09:37 PM »
« Edited: February 09, 2008, 09:11:09 PM by Verily »

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/primaries/results/epolls/#LADEM

Some interesting points:

Obama leads all age groups except over 60/over 65.
Obama manages about 28% of whites. Clinton only gets 14% of blacks. Racial breakdown was 50% white, 44% black, 5% Hispanic.
Clinton wins the non-church-goers, who had favored Obama so far, but Obama won every other religious category.
Obama wins all regions, but only just barely scrapes by in Cajun Country.
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« Reply #13 on: February 09, 2008, 09:12:07 PM »

He also did better among women than men

Likely translation: more women were black.

Probably (as I said), although it is also possible that men were simply more likely to be racist (as Clinton's vote did not go up among men; Other did).
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« Reply #14 on: February 09, 2008, 09:20:30 PM »

It's just a few precincts so far. Less than 1%.
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« Reply #15 on: February 09, 2008, 09:22:29 PM »

What will be the impacts if Clinton gets shut out tonight (very likely), gets shut out Tuesday (likely), and gets shut out on February 19?  How will that affect the March 4 states of Texas, Ohio, Rhode Island, and Vermont?

She'd have to be shut out tomorrow, too. But I think it will look interesting.
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« Reply #16 on: February 09, 2008, 09:29:02 PM »

CNN has "updated" their exit polls. Obama 52.6 to Clinton 44.8 if you do the math.

That's exactly what they had before (only more specific).
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« Reply #17 on: February 09, 2008, 10:05:06 PM »

A quick scan (which be bver wrog as I', tired at the oment and need to sleep) shows more votes counted so far in rural parishs with large black populations than in the whiter ones.

FWIW, there will be more Democratic voters in blacker rural parishes, too.
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« Reply #18 on: February 09, 2008, 10:17:24 PM »

Since 37 delegates in Louisiana are allocated by CD's, and 19 proportionally based on the statewide vote, Clinton will carry a majority of the CD's (probably all but 2 or 3 of them) but with the CD delegates allocated based on the last governor election, it looks like the delegates will be about evenly split.

How are they measuring the last gubernatorial election? By a sum of the vote of all of the Democratic candidates?
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« Reply #19 on: February 09, 2008, 10:20:53 PM »

Clinton had better hope she wins Maine tomorrow. Seven straight losses may be too much to bear.
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« Reply #20 on: February 09, 2008, 11:05:00 PM »

"He spoke about a year in public service would allow the government to fund for college tuition."

Well that is more specific. How much will  that cost?  Public service for a year will cost what, and then free tuition will cost what? And how is it paid for?  In fact, how much is Obama going to cost in toto, if he gets all he wants in toto?  Just asking? 

You expect that in a stump speech? I think you're just looking for excuses to attack Obama.
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« Reply #21 on: February 11, 2008, 09:10:17 PM »

WASHINGTON IS OFFICIALLY THE MOST PRO-OBAMA STATE IN THE NATION

Kansas probably had no counties for Clinton, too.
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