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A18
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« on: August 14, 2004, 09:49:01 AM »
I'm all for approval voting in selecting U.S. Representatives and presidential electors. I think this would really depolarize the nation over time...
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A18
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« Reply #1 on: November 25, 2004, 01:10:10 PM »
Quote from: Redefeatbush04 on November 25, 2004, 12:50:18 PM
Americans are too stupid for approval voting. Remember BRTD's brother who voted for Peroutka because he was neither Bush nor Kerry, only to find out later what Peroutka stood for. We would have a president Peroutka. DO YOU REALLY WANT A PRESIDENT PEROUTKA? It is a good idea, but we are not ready for it.

The majority of people aren't going to vote for Peroutka because his name sounds cool.
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A18
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E: 9.23, S: -6.35
« Reply #2 on: November 25, 2004, 01:25:59 PM »
Do you seriously think approval voting would get Peroutka elected?
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A18
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« Reply #3 on: November 25, 2004, 01:52:45 PM »
In one chamber of state legislatures? Of course. Otherwise the legislature is just a tool for them to vote themselves welfare.
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A18
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« Reply #4 on: November 25, 2004, 03:18:23 PM »
By that logic, we should already have Peroutka as president. If the majority of the people hate both candidates, why didn't they vote for Peroutka?

The Constitution should see to it that no group of people is oppressed.
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A18
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« Reply #5 on: November 25, 2004, 03:42:31 PM »
So why would they just vote for a random other guy on top of their Bush/Kerry vote? It would make sense to vote for a random guy if there was no one else to vote for, but that isn't the case.

Yes. Those people have rights too. Urban control of entire states and their economies is not one of them.
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A18
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« Reply #6 on: November 26, 2004, 10:28:36 PM »
IRV is the worst kind of voting.

Redefeat, what's your serious reason for opposing approval voting? Do you honestly, really, truly believe that it's going to get some random guy elected?
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A18
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« Reply #7 on: November 27, 2004, 05:22:13 PM »
Here's an interesting article that sums up my objections:

http://www.electionmethods.org/IRVproblems.htm
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