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« on: February 11, 2008, 03:38:51 PM »

are Mormons Christians?
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« Reply #1 on: February 11, 2008, 04:47:26 PM »

I've been going to an interdenominational church for 15 years, and I find questions like this very bizarre.

1) What are you asking, exactly?
2) Who is your audience?
3) What is your motive in asking?
4) Are you considering becoming a Mormon?
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« Reply #2 on: February 11, 2008, 04:48:13 PM »

It's a strange question, but yes.
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« Reply #3 on: February 11, 2008, 06:49:11 PM »

Does it really matter?  I have a hard time believing that telling Mormons that they aren't Christian will convince them to give up their faith.
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« Reply #4 on: February 11, 2008, 07:12:13 PM »

Does it really matter?  I have a hard time believing that telling Mormons that they aren't Christian will convince them to give up their faith.

Gabu, people that say Mormons aren't Christians are using an age old tactic of anti-Mormons.  They say the Church doesn't worship Christ and that they're the only ones who do.  This sort of attack on the Church is as old as the Church itself.

I know that.  And what I'm saying is that the reason people say that is either for one of two reasons:

1. To make themselves feel better, or

2. To attempt to convert Mormons to another branch of Christianity.

Those who are doing it for reason #1 are just pathetic and ought to be ignored, and those doing it for reason #2 are actively hurting their cause by immediately putting Mormons on the defensive the moment they open their mouth.  That's what I'm saying.
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« Reply #5 on: February 11, 2008, 07:19:52 PM »

ftr, I'm not trying to display any hatred against LDSers.  I just find this to be an interesting debate (if, pointless.)
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« Reply #6 on: February 11, 2008, 07:42:21 PM »

Mr Fresh,

are you Mormon?
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« Reply #7 on: February 11, 2008, 07:45:10 PM »


do you mind responding to the following thread?

Since I go to an interdenominational church, I don't carry around a list of Christians sects that I consider "Christian".  But, just to show that two can play this game, let's put the shoe on the other foot and ask Mormons what their church thinks of other "Christian" sects...
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« Reply #8 on: February 11, 2008, 07:47:04 PM »

I'm going to regret asking this: Tweed what do you think?

I'd answer no, as Joseph Smith rejected the NT and therefore the central text of Christianity.  but as a non-Christian I'm not all that qualified to answer.
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« Reply #9 on: February 11, 2008, 07:52:03 PM »

then perhaps I haven't the faintest idea what I'm talking about.
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« Reply #10 on: February 11, 2008, 08:44:51 PM »

then perhaps I haven't the faintest idea what I'm talking about.

He tacked on a Third Testament, his Book of Mormon, which, along with The Pearl of Great Price and some other Smith documents, make up the canonical texts of the LDS faith.

Do I have that right, Mr. Fresh?
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« Reply #11 on: February 11, 2008, 09:28:06 PM »

No, not really. But it isn't really any of my business.
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« Reply #12 on: February 11, 2008, 09:52:31 PM »

No, although I am no longer a Christian so my opinion is of little consequence.
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« Reply #13 on: February 11, 2008, 09:54:31 PM »

No. Closer to scientology than christianity (imo...)
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« Reply #14 on: February 11, 2008, 09:55:43 PM »

I'm going to regret asking this: Tweed what do you think?

I'd answer no, as Joseph Smith rejected the NT and therefore the central text of Christianity.  but as a non-Christian I'm not all that qualified to answer.

They accept the New Testament only if it is the version edited by Joseph Smith.  Which is a pretty serious claim to be making, IMO...
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« Reply #15 on: February 11, 2008, 09:57:34 PM »

Yes. If they call themselves Christian, that makes them Christian.
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« Reply #16 on: February 11, 2008, 10:29:43 PM »

Yes in the sense that they worship Jesus as Christ the savior, no in that they have a New New Testament in addition to the New Testament. (sort of in the way that Christians aren't Jews even though the Torah is the Old Testament in the Bible)

Think of them as "Christians+" or "Überchristians", or something along those lines. And while we're on that line of of thinking, I insist that normal Christians from now on be called "Mega Jews" or "Hyper Hebrews", whichever you would prefer.
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« Reply #17 on: February 11, 2008, 10:34:02 PM »

Yes. If they call themselves Christian, that makes them Christian.

Okay, that might go a bit far.  Is Sun Myung Moon a Christian?

For that matter, was Hong Xiuquan?  (You're a history buff, if you haven't heard of him, look him up.  Fascinating.)
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« Reply #18 on: February 11, 2008, 10:47:54 PM »

Yes. If they call themselves Christian, that makes them Christian.

Okay, that might go a bit far.  Is Sun Myung Moon a Christian?

For that matter, was Hong Xiuquan?  (You're a history buff, if you haven't heard of him, look him up.  Fascinating.)

I should add that they cannot believe anything specifically disproven by scripture. That way, the Ahmadiyyas are not Muslim.

Reading about Hong right now.
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« Reply #19 on: February 11, 2008, 10:51:16 PM »

No. They don't believe in Jesus as their savior so they are not.
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« Reply #20 on: February 12, 2008, 09:11:45 AM »

The argument here stems from there being no set definition of "Christian".
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« Reply #21 on: February 13, 2008, 02:26:43 AM »

As I said, the Church reads from only the authorized King James Version of the Bible.

The authorized version which Joseph Smith used to plagiarize sections into the Book of Mormon?  The authorized version which was edited on Smith's whims without any other text to translate from?
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« Reply #22 on: February 13, 2008, 03:06:34 AM »

Yes, obviously, and whats more, some of the worst!

Did you know that they infest the SS/FBI, CIA, and Air Force?
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« Reply #23 on: February 13, 2008, 03:41:10 AM »

No. Joseph Smith was a liar and a false prophet who established a false religion of lies.

When some Mormon missionaries came to near my campus I basically told them to leave me and yelled at one "I reject your false church in the name of Jesus Christ!" Annoying that they would bug me while I was preparing to leave and go off to a strip club...
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« Reply #24 on: February 13, 2008, 07:19:56 AM »

No. Joseph Smith was a liar and a false prophet who established a false religion of lies.

When some Mormon missionaries came to near my campus I basically told them to leave me and yelled at one "I reject your false church in the name of Jesus Christ!" Annoying that they would bug me while I was preparing to leave and go off to a strip club...

How Christian of you...
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