Canada 2008: Official Thread

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It says a lot about Harper that Dion may well form a government.

In other news, I'm pissed off that the election is so close to the American election. And the Liberals are pretty close to our Democrats (that is, not leftist).

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It says a lot about Harper that Dion may well form a government.

In other news, I'm pissed off that the election is so close to the American election. And the Liberals are pretty close to our Democrats (that is, not leftist).

Why would you be pissed off that the Liberals are not leftist?

I didn't say I was.

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The Greenies are supporting Bill Casey (Ind) in his NS riding.

So 2 less candidates than a full slate?
If the NDP was to form a minority government, what would happen to Senatorial appointments?

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Link to the poll?

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Results of said poll in map form:



LOL.

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Results of said poll in map form:



LOL.

They should team up with ARG and Zogby for Zogby-ARG-EKOS super-polls!

That'd be great.
Clearly, the Liberals need a Trudeau.

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Results of said poll in map form:



LOL.

They should team up with ARG and Zogby for Zogby-ARG-EKOS super-polls!

That'd be great.
Clearly, the Liberals need a Trudeau.

Even a Chrétien would work wonders.

Or we can just use a hammer in the right place to paralyze half Dion's face.

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The Canadian Electorate being what it is, all polls should be taken with a few crates of salt until we hit the last few weeks (ie; not because polls now must be inaccurate, it's just that them Canadians do have a habit of changing their minds en masse in the last few days...)

I agree. Canadians should be taken with salt.

Salted Canadians. Yum.

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Nobody cares about Duceppe enough to dislike him, I see. Same with Layton.

Wasn't there some talk a few years ago of the Bloc running candidates in some of the Francophone ridings in the Maritimes and Saskatchewan? I seem to recall reading it somewhere.

I doubt there are enough Francophone separatists in any of those areas for there to even be a candidate. Not all Francophones are separatists.

It would be odd, unless they became the Bloc Francophone.

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I can't decide whether to support the Liberals or the NDP, so I'll support both.

That's quite an interesting combo of support right there.

Why? They're both centre-left parties.

Je n'aime pas les verts

Nope. The Liberals are centrist.

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According to the Liberals' website, the Liberal candidate in my riding is named Mark Canada. That is a very funny name. And this is not a joke.

Wow. That is funny.

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can someone explain to me what impact, if any, danny williams and his 'abc' campaign will have on the election.

from what i read, this fellow sounds like a blowhard.

Manning could conceivably fall in Avalon.

Williams is very, very, very popular. Don't underestimate him.

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can someone explain to me what impact, if any, danny williams and his 'abc' campaign will have on the election.

from what i read, this fellow sounds like a blowhard.

Manning could conceivably fall in Avalon.

Williams is very, very, very popular. Don't underestimate him.

If the Conservatives win anywhere in NL, it will be Avalon. First off, they have no incumbents in the other two ridings. St John's South-Mount Pearl might stay Conservative if the Liberals and NDP split the vote, but St. John's East is definitely going NDP (or, rather, going Jack Harris). And St. John's South is only about 20% odds of a Conservative hold; I would currently project it for the NDP, too.

Exactly. I expect the others to fall anyway.

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Gabu's dad?

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What sort of colors are they using for the Bloc? Ugly.

Anyway, Liberal minority government. Please.

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What sort of colors are they using for the Bloc? Ugly.

Anyway, Liberal minority government. Please.

Eew... no. Stephane Dion is really annoying. I mean he would be a better PM, but the Liberals are just messy and they need to realign themselves. 

Doesn't the Bloc use Quebec-esque colors that don't confuse with the Blue of the Tories?

Go Elizabeth May and the Greens!

Uhh...what?

Anyway, I have come to the conclusion that the Greens are a meaningless party. There is no distinction between them and the Grits. None.

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DemSpace prediction PDF:

http://www.democraticspace.com/canada2008/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/seat-projections.pdf

For Ottawa, he's predicting a Tory gain in Ottawa-South and calling Ottawa-Vanier "too close to call". A lot of his other calls are also quite bad.

So, best not take this crap too seriously. Or so I hope. If Vanier is really too close too call, then the sh**t is going to hit the fan.

Does anyone here have seat-by-seat predictions?

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There is no distinction between them and the Grits. None.

Yes there is; they take their support from a different part of the electorate.

Policy-wise, I mean. The Greens are the party of the urban elite who don't like voting Liberal, I know.

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Actually what I was getting at (in part) was their rural vote; in places there's a very interesting overlap with areas of early Reform support.

Could you make a map?

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Alberta, just because.

Safe Conservative

Calgary Centre
Calgary Centre-North
Calgary East
Calgary Northeast
Calgary—Nose Hill
Calgary Southeast
Calgary Southwest
Calgary West
Crowfoot
Edmonton East
Edmonton—Leduc
Edmonton—Mill Woods—Beaumont
Edmonton—St. Albert
Edmonton—Sherwood Park
Edmonton—Spruce Grove
Fort McMurray—Athabasca
Lethbridge
Macleod
Medicine Hat
Peace River
Red Deer
Vegreville—Wainwright
Westlock—St. Paul
Wetaskiwin
Wild Rose
Yellowhead

Lean Conservative

Edmonton Centre
Edmonton—Strathcona

Edmonton Centre should be Safe Conservative.

DS had those too as Too Close to Call.

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Alberta, just because.

Safe Conservative

Calgary Centre
Calgary Centre-North
Calgary East
Calgary Northeast
Calgary—Nose Hill
Calgary Southeast
Calgary Southwest
Calgary West
Crowfoot
Edmonton East
Edmonton—Leduc
Edmonton—Mill Woods—Beaumont
Edmonton—St. Albert
Edmonton—Sherwood Park
Edmonton—Spruce Grove
Fort McMurray—Athabasca
Lethbridge
Macleod
Medicine Hat
Peace River
Red Deer
Vegreville—Wainwright
Westlock—St. Paul
Wetaskiwin
Wild Rose
Yellowhead

Lean Conservative

Edmonton Centre
Edmonton—Strathcona

Edmonton Centre should be Safe Conservative.

DS had those too as Too Close to Call.

Doesn't mean he's right. Look what happened in Edmonton-Mill Woods-Beaumont last time. Without Landslide Annie, the Liberals haven't a prayer in Edmonton Centre unless they're way ahead nationally.

Really says a lot more about him than it does about those ridings.

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Sherbrooke, Humber--St.Barbe--Baie Verte)
BQ: 75

Weird, Pundits Guide reports that there are Greenies there.

Elections Canada doesn't. Damn it. Elizabeth May is an awful leader.

the debates will prove this

Hopefully.

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My god.

This is depressing.

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My god.

This is depressing.

how so?

Harper's pretty much got this in the bag.

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My current Ontario prediction:

Why can't that part near Manitoba (forget the riding name) vote NDP!