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« Reply #400 on: February 12, 2008, 10:17:56 PM »

i am very proud that the county i was reared in went for hillary with over 60%.

im considerably less proud that the same county also went to the huckster with over 60%.  he must have energized the snake handling crowd.
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« Reply #401 on: February 12, 2008, 10:23:54 PM »

Ok, what about delegates tonight?

Obama's own projections had him winning more   delegates tonight by the following:

Va  -  43 -40
Md  - 37 -33
DC  -  9  - 6

He exceeded that.  Yes?



Well Obama will win between 52 and 55 delgates fom VA, Clinton between 28 and 31. So he's exceeded his expectations by about 10-15 delegates. Indeed, he could well win VA by 27 delegates, one less than the margin in New Jersey and Massachusetts combined - who says just the big states count
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« Reply #402 on: February 12, 2008, 10:25:44 PM »

Ok, what about delegates tonight?

Obama's own projections had him winning more   delegates tonight by the following:

Va  -  43 -40
Md  - 37 -33
DC  -  9  - 6

He exceeded that.  Yes?



Well Obama will win between 52 and 55 delgates fom VA, Clinton between 28 and 31. So he's exceeded his expectations by about 10-15 delegates. Indeed, he could well win VA by 27 delegates, one less than the margin in New Jersey and Massachusetts combined - who says just the big states count

Precisely... there's a residual GE mindset of people looking at primaries when these things are decided by popular vote. Obama leads the popular vote (excl. Florida & Michigan) and that's why he heads delegates excluding them. He got more delegates by winning Idaho than he lost by losing New Jersey, even though his win in Idaho was only by around 15,000 votes, while he lost New Jersey by about 100,000 votes. That's the primary-caucus difference.
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« Reply #403 on: February 12, 2008, 10:28:49 PM »

61/36 a fifth of PG done
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« Reply #404 on: February 12, 2008, 10:31:46 PM »

im curious to see if the huckster will win garrett county md.

ive been through that county.  beautiful country.
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« Reply #405 on: February 12, 2008, 10:32:59 PM »

im curious to see if the huckster will win garrett county md.

ive been through that county.  beautiful country.

He's leading there by a handful of votes. Clinton leads the Democratic primary there, of course.
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« Reply #406 on: February 12, 2008, 10:35:45 PM »

I really want precinct data on Baltimore County...  Would be fascinating...  Anne Arundel too.
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« Reply #407 on: February 12, 2008, 10:36:29 PM »

I really want precinct data on Baltimore County...  Would be fascinating...  Anne Arundel too.

Will any get released at any point?
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« Reply #408 on: February 12, 2008, 10:40:24 PM »

I want to find out about my own county(Charles)
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« Reply #409 on: February 12, 2008, 10:42:56 PM »

I want to find out about my own county(Charles)

last i saw it was 63-34 obama
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« Reply #410 on: February 12, 2008, 11:06:13 PM »

I thought Walter liked Huckabee. He called him his third favorite once (after Dodd and Hillary.) He also hated McCain calling him a media whore.
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« Reply #411 on: February 12, 2008, 11:08:29 PM »

I thought Walter liked Huckabee. He called him his third favorite once (after Dodd and Hillary.) He also hated McCain calling him a media whore.

oh i do think mccain is certainly a media whore. little doubt about that.

huckabee.  eh,  i think he cares slightly more for the workers than most republicans...but that national sales tax is a  non-starter for me.  we wont even go into social issues.

he is a good man.  should get a job on cable tv and make mucho $$$$
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« Reply #412 on: February 13, 2008, 12:47:23 AM »

I am now almost certain that Obama's size of victory will be greater in Virginia than Maryland.
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« Reply #413 on: February 13, 2008, 12:50:06 AM »

I am now almost certain that Obama's size of victory will be greater in Virginia than Maryland.

I have no doubt that that will be the case from the way things are.

I don't think anyone predicted that.
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« Reply #414 on: February 13, 2008, 05:09:53 AM »

I am now almost certain that Obama's size of victory will be greater in Virginia than Maryland.

I have no doubt that that will be the case from the way things are.

I don't think anyone predicted that.

And this is what seems to have happend.
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« Reply #415 on: February 13, 2008, 05:11:51 AM »

I am now almost certain that Obama's size of victory will be greater in Virginia than Maryland.

I have no doubt that that will be the case from the way things are.

I don't think anyone predicted that.

And this is what seems to have happend.

Substantially so, too.
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« Reply #416 on: February 13, 2008, 06:29:54 AM »

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« Reply #417 on: February 13, 2008, 06:53:03 AM »


Where do you find maps like that?
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« Reply #418 on: February 13, 2008, 06:53:47 AM »


He made it. Tongue
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« Reply #419 on: February 13, 2008, 06:54:44 AM »


Oh figures. Tongue
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« Reply #420 on: February 13, 2008, 07:49:42 AM »

The only religious demographic Clinton wins on the CNN exit poll is Catholics with lax church attendence. Obama wins more religious Catholics. I find that odd and can't explain it.
I don't. At least not in Maryland, where rural Blacks are mostly Catholic.
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« Reply #421 on: February 13, 2008, 03:25:12 PM »

The only religious demographic Clinton wins on the CNN exit poll is Catholics with lax church attendence. Obama wins more religious Catholics. I find that odd and can't explain it.
I don't. At least not in Maryland, where rural Blacks are mostly Catholic.

Really? I didn't think blacks were Catholic anywhere, except where they were Caribbean immigrants (in which case they usually call themselves "two or more races"). Are you sure?
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« Reply #422 on: February 13, 2008, 03:41:23 PM »

The only religious demographic Clinton wins on the CNN exit poll is Catholics with lax church attendence. Obama wins more religious Catholics. I find that odd and can't explain it.
I don't. At least not in Maryland, where rural Blacks are mostly Catholic.

Really? I didn't think blacks were Catholic anywhere, except where they were Caribbean immigrants (in which case they usually call themselves "two or more races"). Are you sure?

I'm not sure if there is anymore, but there has historically been a very strong black Catholic presence in southern Maryland.

http://www.africanamericans.com/BlackCatholics.htm
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« Reply #423 on: February 13, 2008, 05:44:52 PM »

The only religious demographic Clinton wins on the CNN exit poll is Catholics with lax church attendence. Obama wins more religious Catholics. I find that odd and can't explain it.
I don't. At least not in Maryland, where rural Blacks are mostly Catholic.

Ah, that explains it.

The only religious demographic Clinton wins on the CNN exit poll is Catholics with lax church attendence. Obama wins more religious Catholics. I find that odd and can't explain it.
I don't. At least not in Maryland, where rural Blacks are mostly Catholic.

Really? I didn't think blacks were Catholic anywhere, except where they were Caribbean immigrants (in which case they usually call themselves "two or more races"). Are you sure?

A lot in Louisiana are too.
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« Reply #424 on: February 13, 2008, 05:47:31 PM »

Although the exit poll numbers have changed quite a bit since then. Clinton now wins Catholics with regular church attendance by a wide margin, while Obama narrowly wins Catholics with low attendance. Obama wins Protestants with regular church attendance in a landslide while Clinton wins Protestants with lax attendance (obviously explained by white vs. black)
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