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« on: February 12, 2008, 06:20:58 PM »

The drop in the black vote doesn't necessarily mean the blacks stayed home, it's possible that most of those first time voters are white (and likely young too). Not a bad thing for Obama.
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« Reply #1 on: February 12, 2008, 06:36:53 PM »

Fox News is always less restrained than the others in giving out exit poll numbers like this before polls close:

http://thepage.time.com/potomac-primary-exit-poll-data-from-fox-news/

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Well, chuck that exit poll.  Obama winning Seniors?

It makes sense in Virginia. Black seniors + wealthy ones in NOVA.
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« Reply #2 on: February 12, 2008, 06:44:27 PM »

Other than a very wacky poll that had Thompson ahead for whatever reason, Giuliani led in every Florida poll until December, when the campaign really started up.
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« Reply #3 on: February 12, 2008, 06:51:46 PM »

Giuliani never stood a prayer in Iowa. That should've been obvious from day one. He was an idiot for ever stepping foot in the state. He was also an idiot for not bothering with NH too though.
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I spent the winter writing songs about getting better
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« Reply #4 on: February 12, 2008, 06:55:31 PM »

Of course she'll at least try for Wisconsin for delegates at least, but Wisconsin election law doesn't exactly favor her (to put it mildly).
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« Reply #5 on: February 12, 2008, 07:01:13 PM »

CNN calls Virginia for Obama

...as they accidentally just showed on the bottom Wink

Wow, Hillary's going to be in a world of pain tonight.
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« Reply #6 on: February 12, 2008, 07:03:35 PM »

The GOP primary might end up being closer.
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« Reply #7 on: February 12, 2008, 07:08:16 PM »

The only religious demographic Clinton wins on the CNN exit poll is Catholics with lax church attendence. Obama wins more religious Catholics. I find that odd and can't explain it.
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« Reply #8 on: February 12, 2008, 07:40:37 PM »

My biggest race watch in 2006 was the MN-01 House race. You should've seen how the room exploded when that one was called.
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« Reply #9 on: February 12, 2008, 07:53:09 PM »


Appalachia, created specifically so as not to include Richmond.

It's made for Clinton, basically.

Huh? It's nowhere near Richmond.

VA-09 is southern West Virginia.
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« Reply #10 on: February 12, 2008, 08:52:48 PM »

They haven't even counted all of Illinois yet.
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I spent the winter writing songs about getting better
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« Reply #11 on: February 12, 2008, 09:02:19 PM »

Nothing from Falls Church in. Not good for Hillary.
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I spent the winter writing songs about getting better
BRTD
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Posts: 113,050
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Political Matrix
E: -6.50, S: -6.67

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« Reply #12 on: February 12, 2008, 09:08:37 PM »

West Virginia is probably the most racist state in the country

I doubt it. Not much point in hating blacks when there aren't any where you live.
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« Reply #13 on: February 12, 2008, 11:06:13 PM »

I thought Walter liked Huckabee. He called him his third favorite once (after Dodd and Hillary.) He also hated McCain calling him a media whore.
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I spent the winter writing songs about getting better
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E: -6.50, S: -6.67

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« Reply #14 on: February 13, 2008, 05:44:52 PM »

The only religious demographic Clinton wins on the CNN exit poll is Catholics with lax church attendence. Obama wins more religious Catholics. I find that odd and can't explain it.
I don't. At least not in Maryland, where rural Blacks are mostly Catholic.

Ah, that explains it.

The only religious demographic Clinton wins on the CNN exit poll is Catholics with lax church attendence. Obama wins more religious Catholics. I find that odd and can't explain it.
I don't. At least not in Maryland, where rural Blacks are mostly Catholic.

Really? I didn't think blacks were Catholic anywhere, except where they were Caribbean immigrants (in which case they usually call themselves "two or more races"). Are you sure?

A lot in Louisiana are too.
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I spent the winter writing songs about getting better
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E: -6.50, S: -6.67

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« Reply #15 on: February 13, 2008, 05:47:31 PM »

Although the exit poll numbers have changed quite a bit since then. Clinton now wins Catholics with regular church attendance by a wide margin, while Obama narrowly wins Catholics with low attendance. Obama wins Protestants with regular church attendance in a landslide while Clinton wins Protestants with lax attendance (obviously explained by white vs. black)
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I spent the winter writing songs about getting better
BRTD
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Posts: 113,050
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Political Matrix
E: -6.50, S: -6.67

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« Reply #16 on: February 14, 2008, 07:04:35 PM »

i think clinton can do reasonably well the woment (especially) in nova.

i dont know why you all automatically think that obama has nova wrapped up.

ive yet to hear anyone articulate a sound theory on why she will get blown out of the water in fairfax county.  i think she could possibly keep in reasonably close.  maybe not.  but im not automatically ceding it to obama by 30 points.

ha.

Not a surprise that Walter loves to ignore previous voting patterns if he can't figure out why everyone expected Obama to own in NOVA.
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