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« on: February 12, 2004, 06:25:07 PM »

A new poll by Survey USA in Kansas shows Bush leading Kerry by only an 8% margin, 52-44. Another sign of how badly Bush is doing right now. Bush won Kansas 58-37, a 21% margin in 2000.
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« Reply #1 on: February 12, 2004, 06:29:12 PM »

Not a very accurate poll, MoE 4.3%, and we won't win Kansas anyway.
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« Reply #2 on: February 12, 2004, 06:30:44 PM »

Wow! I just hoped that SurveyUSA polled throughout Kansas and not just Kansas City. Kerry is a great midwestern candidate, with his millitary message- and middle class message.
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« Reply #3 on: February 12, 2004, 06:31:51 PM »

Not a very accurate poll, MoE 4.3%, and we won't win Kansas anyway.

No of course not, but it's another sign of Bush current weakness. Also, even if you add that margin it makes it 16% lead, still clearly worse than in 2000.
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« Reply #4 on: February 12, 2004, 06:33:10 PM »

Wow! I just hoped that SurveyUSA polled throughout Kansas and not just Kansas City. Kerry is a great midwestern candidate, with his millitary message- and middle class message.
The people outside of Kansas City don't have phones, I don't think they were polled.
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« Reply #5 on: February 12, 2004, 06:33:49 PM »

Wow! I just hoped that SurveyUSA polled throughout Kansas and not just Kansas City. Kerry is a great midwestern candidate, with his millitary message- and middle class message.

I don't think that that was meant to be a joke, but I will take it as one.  Anyway, the latest Zogby Poll released two days ago has the race nationally as 49% Bush, 48% Kerry.  Pretty good considering that the Dems have been attacking Bush almost unanswered for the past month.
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« Reply #6 on: February 12, 2004, 06:49:10 PM »

I was serious about Kerry in the midwest. If NH and Iowa had been in reverse order, he wouldn't have made it to Feb. 3. Kerry's success as I see it, was due to his appeal to the less educated.
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« Reply #7 on: February 12, 2004, 08:00:39 PM »

The national Zogby poll... a led of 1% is inside the MoE and considering that Kerry isn't yet the nominee it seems to my like a great performance for democrats and a source of concern for republicans, wich candidate is the president who had been almost ever above 50% average of support.

And Kansas, that's an excellent performance Supersoulty
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« Reply #8 on: February 13, 2004, 12:54:55 AM »

I was serious about Kerry in the midwest. If NH and Iowa had been in reverse order, he wouldn't have made it to Feb. 3. Kerry's success as I see it, was due to his appeal to the less educated.

You seem to believe that Midwestern voters are 'less educated' - not so, and particularly not in Iowa, and most of all not in a primary.  
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« Reply #9 on: February 13, 2004, 08:16:37 AM »

I was serious about Kerry in the midwest. If NH and Iowa had been in reverse order, he wouldn't have made it to Feb. 3. Kerry's success as I see it, was due to his appeal to the less educated.
Well, I don't think Kansas is the midwest.  I see the Midwest as WV, OH, IN, MI, IL, IA, WI, MN, and MO.  To win the election, Kerry needs all but two of them, most liukely.
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« Reply #10 on: February 13, 2004, 03:28:47 PM »

I was serious about Kerry in the midwest. If NH and Iowa had been in reverse order, he wouldn't have made it to Feb. 3. Kerry's success as I see it, was due to his appeal to the less educated.
Well, I don't think Kansas is the midwest.  I see the Midwest as WV, OH, IN, MI, IL, IA, WI, MN, and MO.  To win the election, Kerry needs all but two of them, most liukely.

Indiana is a certain loss, so that leaves him with a lot of states to win...where would you put PA?
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« Reply #11 on: February 13, 2004, 03:35:07 PM »

You mean what region?  I would say lower notheast.
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« Reply #12 on: February 13, 2004, 03:37:30 PM »

You mean what region?  I would say lower notheast.

Yeah, what region. "Lower Northeast", how many states are in hta one? Smiley
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« Reply #13 on: February 13, 2004, 03:41:06 PM »

I think I said it before but I'll say it again state polls right now are meaningless to me anyway the Democrates have been ganging up on Bush for about 6 months now and the White House has yet to do anything.

I'll also repeat that this is going to be a hard race so buckle your seat belts hold on to your hats its gonna be a long election unless someone messes up royaly only way its not going to be close until the end.
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« Reply #14 on: February 13, 2004, 03:41:13 PM »

5: NY, PA, DE, MD, NJ.
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« Reply #15 on: February 13, 2004, 03:44:10 PM »

I think I said it before but I'll say it again state polls right now are meaningless to me anyway the Democrates have been ganging up on Bush for about 6 months now and the White House has yet to do anything.

I'll also repeat that this is going to be a hard race so buckle your seat belts hold on to your hats its gonna be a long election unless someone messes up royaly only way its not going to be close until the end.

I will repeat once again: that is not my point. The point is, apparently 44% of Kansas voters are ready to vote for kerry right now. That doesn't mean they will on elkection day, but it shows potential, and it also shows that Bush is in trouble right now. I still think he'll win, but thta Kerry's chances are bigger than I expected. If the affair doesn't turn out to be true, of course...
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« Reply #16 on: February 13, 2004, 04:40:19 PM »

I was serious about Kerry in the midwest. If NH and Iowa had been in reverse order, he wouldn't have made it to Feb. 3. Kerry's success as I see it, was due to his appeal to the less educated.

You seem to believe that Midwestern voters are 'less educated' - not so, and particularly not in Iowa, and most of all not in a primary.  

I was comparing the college educational backgrounds of midwesterners to New England, and the midatlantic states which are also highly educated. I'm sure there are plenty of areas in the midwest that are high tech, and have well educated voters, but there are  many areas with a below average education.
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