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Gustaf
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« on: February 16, 2008, 10:45:25 AM »

An ominous sign indeed.
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« Reply #1 on: February 16, 2008, 02:32:18 PM »

Come on, is this really a surprise? The majority of Latinos just don't like Obama. A few people say that racism is part of it, but I'm sure there's a little more to it than that.

Like what? I fail to why the majority of Latinos should dislike Obama

Most may well be closer to Hillary Clinton on the issues and casting votes for her in the Democratic primaries on that basis is fair enough. But were Obama to win the Democratic presidential nomination, then I see no reason why Latino Democrats shouldn't support Obama in the general. He's closer to Clinton on the issues than the Republican nominee will be

It's not like Obama is running as an anti-immigration candidate

Dave

What are the "issues" for Latino Democrats? I thought latinos just didn't like blacks all that much (or at least not black politicians). And they trust Clinton more.
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« Reply #2 on: February 16, 2008, 03:13:39 PM »

How do I know what's a reliable pollster and what isn't?

Fair comment Smiley. From what I can gather, ARG just don't seem to be particularly respected. Whether it's flawed methodology or not, I don't know

Dave

ARG simply has a bad record. THey've called state after state wrong throughout this primary season.
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« Reply #3 on: February 16, 2008, 07:18:25 PM »

Latinos don't not like Obama, they just don't know who he is, while most of them know full well who the Clintons are and like them.

Yep. BTW, Obama carried Latino's in Virginia. Granted they were only 5% of the Democratic primary electorate but they broke for him. But then most Virginia demographics did Smiley

He won them in Illinois but not overwhelmingly so, which suggests he, rightly or wrongly, has problems with Latinos relative to Clinton

Dave

Latinos are I would argue the hardest working americans and especially in the west they make up most of the working class. Racism may have something to do with Latinos not voting for Obama but I realize its more because they know and trust the Clintons and fit in perfectly with their core constituencies. Latinos are more likely to be poorer, working class, less educated etc....

You have a point there, actually. However, I don't think that's the entire story since I *believe* Clinton's margins among Latinos have been higher than one would expect given the demographic break-down.
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