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E: -2.58, S: 2.43

« on: February 16, 2008, 02:28:44 PM »

Come on, is this really a surprise? The majority of Latinos just don't like Obama. A few people say that racism is part of it, but I'm sure there's a little more to it than that.

Like what? I fail to why the majority of Latinos should dislike Obama

Most may well be closer to Hillary Clinton on the issues and casting votes for her in the Democratic primaries on that basis is fair enough. But were Obama to win the Democratic presidential nomination, then I see no reason why Latino Democrats shouldn't support Obama in the general. He's closer to Clinton on the issues than the Republican nominee will be

It's not like Obama is running as an anti-immigration candidate

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E: -2.58, S: 2.43

« Reply #1 on: February 16, 2008, 02:33:09 PM »

I suggest y'all scratch this poll and pay closer attention to more reputable pollsters as far as the Texas Democratic primary goes.

Should they point towards Obama closing Clinton's lead, then you can determine whether you feel Obama can win or run her pretty close in Texas

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E: -2.58, S: 2.43

« Reply #2 on: February 16, 2008, 02:43:45 PM »

Come on, is this really a surprise? The majority of Latinos just don't like Obama. A few people say that racism is part of it, but I'm sure there's a little more to it than that.

Like what? I fail to why the majority of Latinos should dislike Obama

Most may well be closer to Hillary Clinton on the issues and casting votes for her in the Democratic primaries on that basis is fair enough. But were Obama to win the Democratic presidential nomination, then I see no reason why Latino Democrats shouldn't support Obama in the general. He's closer to Clinton on the issues than the Republican nominee will be

It's not like Obama is running as an anti-immigration candidate

Dave

What are the "issues" for Latino Democrats? I thought latinos just didn't like blacks all that much (or at least not black politicians). And they trust Clinton more.

Things like social justice, perhaps, matter to Latino Democrats. Either Clinton or Obama, relative to a Republican, should satisfy them on that score

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E: -2.58, S: 2.43

« Reply #3 on: February 16, 2008, 02:49:31 PM »

How do I know what's a reliable pollster and what isn't?

Fair comment Smiley. From what I can gather, ARG just don't seem to be particularly respected. Whether it's flawed methodology or not, I don't know

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« Reply #4 on: February 16, 2008, 02:54:50 PM »

Latinos don't not like Obama, they just don't know who he is, while most of them know full well who the Clintons are and like them.

Yep. BTW, Obama carried Latino's in Virginia. Granted they were only 5% of the Democratic primary electorate but they broke for him. But then most Virginia demographics did Smiley

He won them in Illinois but not overwhelmingly so, which suggests he, rightly or wrongly, has problems with Latinos relative to Clinton

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E: -2.58, S: 2.43

« Reply #5 on: February 16, 2008, 08:46:44 PM »

How do I know what's a reliable pollster and what isn't?

Fair comment Smiley. From what I can gather, ARG just don't seem to be particularly respected. Whether it's flawed methodology or not, I don't know

Dave

ARG simply has a bad record. THey've called state after state wrong throughout this primary season.

Ah right Smiley though I'd like to think that they've got this one right Grin. But Obama splitting Latino's 44/42 with Clinton, unlikely to say the least

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E: -2.58, S: 2.43

« Reply #6 on: February 16, 2008, 09:39:51 PM »

Latinos don't not like Obama, they just don't know who he is, while most of them know full well who the Clintons are and like them.

They realize that Obama is too inexperienced to run the country.  Finally, someone gets it!!!


Should Obama win the Democratic nomination and the presidency, my gut instinct is that Obama will surprise his critics when he proves just how able and competent he will be despite what is, rather widely, perceived as a lack of experience

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E: -2.58, S: 2.43

« Reply #7 on: February 16, 2008, 09:50:56 PM »

Latinos don't not like Obama, they just don't know who he is, while most of them know full well who the Clintons are and like them.

They realize that Obama is too inexperienced to run the country.  Finally, someone gets it!!!


Should Obama win the Democratic nomination and the presidency, my gut instinct is that Obama will surprise his critics when he proves just how able and competent he will be despite what is, rather widely, perceived as a lack of experience

Dave

Yes. Obama could be a realigner... the fact that he lacks expirence is why he will make change. He hasn't been properly assimilated into the country's political machinery.

And God knows, change, first and foremost, is what is needed, especially after 8 years of that George W Bush. Hillary Clinton would, well, be any Republican nominee's best friend going into November. As for change, you won't get that with John McCain, who well has been in Washington DC since dinosaurs roamed the earth, if not earlier Tongue

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