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« on: February 18, 2008, 05:01:06 PM »

should homeless people be allowed to vote?
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« Reply #1 on: February 18, 2008, 05:16:37 PM »
« Edited: February 18, 2008, 05:36:52 PM by Alcon »

This is an interesting debate I look forward to, being that there are many technicalities involved.

This also intertwines into the debate over allowing Americans Abroad to vote.
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« Reply #2 on: February 18, 2008, 05:47:22 PM »

Wow. I'm the first person to vote "no" after seven people voted yes.

I say no because of the primary residence issue. I don't want people deciding to vote where ever they please, for one. Also, how do you keep track of their registration? As someone who wants to...eh...get into this type of work in the future, I know the burden would be too heavy for poll workers, election board members, etc.
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« Reply #3 on: February 18, 2008, 05:56:40 PM »

Of course. But candidates who "treat" should be harshly punished.
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« Reply #4 on: February 18, 2008, 06:11:11 PM »

Yes, provided they can prove their identity in any of the usual ways. Since they don't have an address, they should be allowed to register their address as their local homeless shelter or some other facility with similar functionality so there's some means of tracking what precinct they will vote in.
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« Reply #5 on: February 18, 2008, 06:24:27 PM »

Yes, provided they can prove their identity in any of the usual ways. Since they don't have an address, they should be allowed to register their address as their local homeless shelter or some other facility with similar functionality so there's some means of tracking what precinct they will vote in.

I agree.
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« Reply #6 on: February 18, 2008, 06:31:21 PM »

Yes of course.
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« Reply #7 on: February 18, 2008, 07:18:53 PM »

Wow. I'm the first person to vote "no" after seven people voted yes.

I say no because of the primary residence issue. I don't want people deciding to vote where ever they please, for one. Also, how do you keep track of their registration? As someone who wants to...eh...get into this type of work in the future, I know the burden would be too heavy for poll workers, election board members, etc.

How about Dibble's proposal for residence?
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« Reply #8 on: February 18, 2008, 07:23:26 PM »

Of course they should; you can't deny someone the right to vote just because they don't own a place of residence.
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« Reply #9 on: February 18, 2008, 07:24:27 PM »

Of course they should; you can't deny someone the right to vote just because they don't own a place of residence.

Actually, you can. The issue is whether it's right to do so (and it isn't).
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« Reply #10 on: February 18, 2008, 07:27:49 PM »

Of course they should; you can't deny someone the right to vote just because they don't own a place of residence.
Actually, you can. The issue is whether it's right to do so (and it isn't).

You're right: you shouldn't deny someone the right to vote just because they don't own a place of residence.
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« Reply #11 on: February 18, 2008, 08:52:24 PM »

Wow. I'm the first person to vote "no" after seven people voted yes.

I say no because of the primary residence issue. I don't want people deciding to vote where ever they please, for one. Also, how do you keep track of their registration? As someone who wants to...eh...get into this type of work in the future, I know the burden would be too heavy for poll workers, election board members, etc.

How about Dibble's proposal for residence?

Eh, not a fan. It seems very vulnerable to fraud.
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« Reply #12 on: February 19, 2008, 06:54:44 PM »

It would be hard to manage, but our election system should be run on convenience. This country belongs as much to the homeless than it does to you and I. They should absolutely have a say in their government.
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« Reply #13 on: February 19, 2008, 08:04:10 PM »

Wow. I'm the first person to vote "no" after seven people voted yes.

I say no because of the primary residence issue. I don't want people deciding to vote where ever they please, for one. Also, how do you keep track of their registration? As someone who wants to...eh...get into this type of work in the future, I know the burden would be too heavy for poll workers, election board members, etc.

How about Dibble's proposal for residence?

Eh, not a fan. It seems very vulnerable to fraud.

I thought about that as well before posting, but I think the fraud risk entailed is about the same as with identity theft. If someone is going to go through the trouble of registering as someone else to vote, they wouldn't really need to do it at a homeless shelter by the time they have all the credentials they need.
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« Reply #14 on: February 19, 2008, 08:11:06 PM »

It's no more prone to fraud than allowing college students to vote.
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« Reply #15 on: February 19, 2008, 08:12:51 PM »

It's no more prone to fraud than allowing college students to vote.

Homeless proof of residence is a little harder to prove than college proof of residence...
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« Reply #16 on: February 19, 2008, 08:21:37 PM »

It's no more prone to fraud than allowing college students to vote.

Homeless proof of residence is a little harder to prove than college proof of residence...

LOL  The idiot just wanted to mention "college students," Alcon.
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« Reply #17 on: February 19, 2008, 08:25:05 PM »

It's no more prone to fraud than allowing college students to vote.

Homeless proof of residence is a little harder to prove than college proof of residence...

Homeless shelters don't keep records?

Imagine you grew up in Fargo, ND. You currently go to school at the Minnesota State University, Moorhead, just across the river but you still have a North Dakota driver's license that lists Fargo as your address. So you vote at your college residence in Moorhead. The drive over to Fargo and vote there at your home precinct as a driver's license with your residence listed is all that's required to vote in ND. EASY.
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« Reply #18 on: February 19, 2008, 08:26:06 PM »

Homeless shelter records are not a viable form of legal identification, or even supplementary identification, in any state.
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« Reply #19 on: February 19, 2008, 09:25:20 PM »

Depends on why they are homeless.

If it is because they are tooling around the country in an RV, then no way should they be allowed to vote.  Otherwise, I have no problem with it if they can demonstrate a tie to the community they vote in somehow.
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