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« on: February 18, 2008, 06:49:19 PM »
« edited: March 05, 2008, 03:22:27 AM by I Drink Your Milkshake! »

Something most don't realize about superdelegates is that not all are chosen yet. Each state has at least one "add-on" which is to be elected at the state convention, or by the state Democratic committee if there is no convention. In every caucus state, this means the state convention, and that greatly benefits Obama because an obviously pro-Obama convention will elect only pro-Obama delegates even if officially unpledged, and Obama won the vast majority of these. For primary states it's not so clear, some committees will follow the will of their states' votes, others won't, but the numbers favor Obama.

Delegates per states:

Iowa* - 1
New Hampshire - 1
Nevada* - 1
South Carolina - 1
Alaska* - 1
Alabama - 1
Arkansas - 1
Arizona - 1
California - 5
Colorado* - 1
Connecticut - 1
Delaware - 1
Georgia - 2
Idaho* - 1
Illinois - 3
Kansas* - 1
Massachusetts - 2
Minnesota* - 1
Missouri - 2
North Dakota* - 1
New Jersey - 2
New Mexico - 1
New York - 4
Oklahoma - 1
Tennessee - 2
Utah - 1
Louisiana - 1
Washington* - 2
Nebraska* - 1
Maine* - 1
DC - 2
Maryland - 2
Virginia - 2
Hawaii - 1+
Wisconsin - 2
Rhode Island - 1
Ohio - 2
Vermont - 1
Texas* - 3
Wyoming* - 1
Mississippi - 1
Pennsylvania - 2
Indiana - 1
North Carolina -2
West Virginia - 1
Kentucky - 1
Oregon - 1
Montana - 1
South Dakota - 1
Puerto Rico - 1

*Caucus
+A caucus, but still chosen by the state committee. They'd have to be huge asses though to give the delegate to Hillary.

Assuming all states follow how they voted, that's 37-38 for Obama (Nevada is unclear, Hillary won the popular vote but there might still be a pro-Obama majority at the state convention) and 23-24 for Hillary (Remember, Texas's depend on who wins the caucus, not primary.) Furthermore since Obama's are more likely to be for him because of his victories at the caucuses and domination of the state conventions, there's more likely to be going against the state vote in the primary states. That's another roughly 14 delegate lead for Obama and a portion of superdelegates Hillary needs that she won't get.
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« Reply #1 on: March 05, 2008, 01:18:24 AM »
« Edited: March 05, 2008, 01:25:35 AM by I Drink Your Milkshake! »

Worth bumping.

I'll update the states since then. Since then three have been declared, one from DC for Obama, Alabama's for Obama and Oklahoma's for a former Edwards supporter who's now uncommitted. Tennessee's and Arkansas' will be chosen Saturday.
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« Reply #2 on: March 05, 2008, 03:23:03 AM »

I added them all in and there's 74 total.

That's over 20% of the remaining superdelegates. Keep that in mind.
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