Macedonia, Croatia and Albania in NATO?

[JSojourner]

In April, the applications for NATO membership by Croatia, Albania and Macedonia will be formally introduced.  Indiana Senator Richard Lugar has come out in support of all three countries.

The only one that's seriously controversial is Macedonia.  Greece is expected to lobby hard against Macedonian inclusion.  The Greeks object to the country using the name, "Macedonia".  This is because there is a region of Greece also known as Macedonia and I think (not sure of this) Greeks fear they would want to break away.  Maybe some of you know more about this?

Also -- what do you think of adding these countries to NATO?

[Silent Hunter]

Macedonia is a historical Greek area- Alexander the Great was from there.

I've no objection to adding any of these. Albania itself might be slightly problematic- it borders Kosova. That said, I support it it would be interesting to look at some F-7s (Chinese version of the MiG-21)

[Хahar 🤔]

Croatia: YES. Certainly.
Albania: Yes. But not in all capital letters.
Macedonia: Yes, if only to piss Greece off.

[The Mikado]

Macedonia is a historical Greek area- Alexander the Great was from there.

I've no objection to adding any of these. Albania itself might be slightly problematic- it borders Kosova. That said, I support it it would be interesting to look at some F-7s (Chinese version of the MiG-21)

Um...no he wasn't.  Alexander the Great was from Macedon, which is part of modern-day Greece.  It controlled territories stretching as far north as modern day Macedonia, but the heartland of ancient Macedon was in Greek Macedonia.

[Silent Hunter]

Macedonia is a historical Greek area- Alexander the Great was from there.

I've no objection to adding any of these. Albania itself might be slightly problematic- it borders Kosova. That said, I support it it would be interesting to look at some F-7s (Chinese version of the MiG-21)

Um...no he wasn't.  Alexander the Great was from Macedon, which is part of modern-day Greece.  It controlled territories stretching as far north as modern day Macedonia, but the heartland of ancient Macedon was in Greek Macedonia.

I stand corrected.

[GMantis]

I'm in favor of the admission of Macedonia - for they really need protection. I'm absolutely against Albania, which doesn't deserve it all and until Croatiahas made reparations for the war crimes they commited, I'm against their admission.

Macedonia is a historical Greek area- Alexander the Great was from there.

I've no objection to adding any of these. Albania itself might be slightly problematic- it borders Kosova. That said, I support it it would be interesting to look at some F-7s (Chinese version of the MiG-21)

Since you seem to be using local names, would you mind calling Bulgaria Balgariya from now on. Or does this reverence extend only to Albanians?

[Silent Hunter]

I'm using English-language names- there is no agreement on the correct name for the new state. The use of Kosova shows my point of view on the issue- I support an independent state. Look at any English language Albanian source- they use Kosova.

I use Kyiv for the capital of Ukraine, due to the Ukrainian point of view on that issue.

Your country's government uses Bulgaria in the English language version of its website, so it appears to have no objection to use of the English spelling.

You'll notice in that quote I don't use Elláda, Makedonija, or Zhōnghuá.

[GMantis]

I'm using English-language names- there is no agreement on the correct name for the new state. The use of Kosova shows my point of view on the issue- I support an independent state. Look at any English language Albanian source- they use Kosova.

I use Kyiv for the capital of Ukraine, due to the Ukrainian point of view on that issue.

Your country's government uses Bulgaria in the English language version of its website, so it appears to have no objection to use of the English spelling.

You'll notice in that quote I don't use Elláda, Makedonija, or Zhōnghuá.

That's understandable, though I was a bit annoyed as no one used this name until independence and now it seems to have become preferable.

[Silent Hunter]

I'm using English-language names- there is no agreement on the correct name for the new state. The use of Kosova shows my point of view on the issue- I support an independent state. Look at any English language Albanian source- they use Kosova.

I use Kyiv for the capital of Ukraine, due to the Ukrainian point of view on that issue.

Your country's government uses Bulgaria in the English language version of its website, so it appears to have no objection to use of the English spelling.

You'll notice in that quote I don't use Elláda, Makedonija, or Zhōnghuá.

That's understandable, though I was a bit annoyed as no one used this name until independence and now it seems to have become preferable.

It was used by Albanian Kosovars before then. It's still not preferable- the BBC still calls it Kosovo as does Wikipedia.