If Barack leads by 100 delegates at convention time would you Dems be ok if

[agcatter]

Hillary is put over the top by super delegates PROVIDING:

Hillary comes on strong winning Pennsylvania, Kentucky, W. Virginia, and Indiana by large margins negating smaller wins by Barack and WINNING the overall primary POPULAR VOTE.

For now, forego the debate on whether that's doable because I for one accept the premise that she would only win by a small bargain.  Could the Democratic Party faithful accept that decision and be ok with that?

[○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└]

She has to make up a 590k gap, and that doesn't include Iowa, Nevada, Washington, and Maine, where no numbers are available. I suppose it's more likely than her winning the pledged delegates, but the odds are against her.

[Lief]

I'd drive to Colorado and protest along with thousands of others.

[Aizen]

It will be a bloodbath 20 minutes from where I live. I'd probably throw myself into the fray too... mayhem amuses me. But I would be upset.

[HockeyDude]

Hillary is put over the top by super delegates PROVIDING:

Hillary comes on strong winning Pennsylvania, Kentucky, W. Virginia, and Indiana by large margins negating smaller wins by Barack and WINNING the overall primary POPULAR VOTE.

For now, forego the debate on whether that's doable because I for one accept the premise that she would only win by a small bargain.  Could the Democratic Party faithful accept that decision and be ok with that.

absolutely not, the Democratic Party should realize how necessary Obama's nomination is. 

[Grumps]

Even the most liberal of libs have stated clearly that the leader in the delegate count going into the Convention better be the nominee or there will be blood in the streets and the party will be severly damaged.

[Stranger in a strange land]

I'd drive to Colorado and protest along with thousands of others.

the scenario you describe won't happen: even if Hillary wins PA, KY and WV  substantially, there are other states Obama will win and cancel out her PV gains. Plus there are the caucuses, so it's a weak argument. Also if FL and MI revote, I could see Obama winning MI and while FL would be close, Hillary would probably win.

if it does, there will be a floor fight: the superdelegates will have no choice but to support whoever gets the most pledged delegates: democrats don't love the Clintons THAT much.

[agcatter]

Would it make any difference if Hillary agreed to put Barack on the ticket as VP??  In other words, would that be enough to cushion the blowfor her nomination to be acceptable to the rank in file?

[Sensei]

hypothetically?



No way would I support Shrillary under such circumstances.

[Mr. Morden]

If Clinton wins the "popular vote" and Obama wins the pledged delegate count, then no matter which one of them wins the nom, the losing party will claim that the nomination was "stolen" from them, and you'll have an ugly mess.

[agcatter]

Anger over the process would trump the fact that she is almost exactly the same as he on policy?

I remember working hard for Reagan against Ford in 1976 in a similar close race and ended up voting for Ford in the general even though I was still pissed.

[All life is a blur of Republicans and meat.]

I'd drive to Colorado and protest along with thousands of others.

Me too. Although I'd probably take a bus. It's always been my dream to get my ass kicked by a bunch of nightstick weilding cops at a Democratic convention, much like our forefathers.

[War on Want]

I'd drive to Colorado and protest along with thousands of others.

Me too. Although I'd probably take a bus. It's always been my dream to get my ass kicked by a bunch of nightstick weilding cops at a Democratic convention, much like our forefathers.

I would love to go too, but sadly my parents would never let me.

[All life is a blur of Republicans and meat.]

Anger over the process would trump the fact that she is almost exactly the same as he on policy?

I remember working hard for Reagan against Ford in 1976 in a similar close race and ended up voting for Ford in the general even though I was still pissed.

That depends on if you take Hillary's latest stand on war seriously. I don't and a lot of Democrats don't. I think there is about a 0% chance of Hillary taking any serious steps end the war in Iraq if she takes office.

[So the Heroes Fall]

No. And another question: Why would the superdelegates do so?

[NHPolitico]

hypothetically?



No way would I support Shrillary under such circumstances.

Yep, either McCain or write in Obama in protest. I will never vote for Hillary. Ever.

[All life is a blur of Republicans and meat.]

Yeah, I wouldn't vote for Clinton or McCain. I would either write in Obama or vote for Walt Brown or something.

[J. J.]

Hillary is put over the top by super delegates PROVIDING:

Hillary comes on strong winning Pennsylvania, Kentucky, W. Virginia, and Indiana by large margins negating smaller wins by Barack and WINNING the overall primary POPULAR VOTE.

For now, forego the debate on whether that's doable because I for one accept the premise that she would only win by a small bargain.  Could the Democratic Party faithful accept that decision and be ok with that?

I think that if Obama leads by 100 delegates after FL/MI are settled, it's over for Hillary.

[Torie]

The supers will be looking at the polls and who is viable, and what has happened in the news, and about the candidates, since the voting stopped.

[So the Heroes Fall]

I think most superdelegates who want to remain out of the whole mess would just vote the way their state/district did if they're forced to take a side. Many who previously remained neutral have just done that so far (Chet Culver, Steve Kagen and Ron Kind, Minnesota DFL Chairman Brian Melendez.)

[Conan]

If Barack is the democratic nominee, I will be voting for him. I like Barack. However, I don't think he will win the general election and I think his campaign is insulting to all of those who have actually done hard work to make progress in this country.

[So the Heroes Fall]

I think his campaign is insulting to all of those who have actually done hard work to make progress in this country.

Huh?

[Mr.Phips]

Absolutely not.  Whoever has the pledged delegate lead should be the nominee. 

[MSUfan]

The supers will be looking at the polls and who is viable, and what has happened in the news, and about the candidates, since the voting stopped.

They won't overlook the fact that Obama leads in pledged delegates. That would be hanging over their heads for the entirety.

[So the Heroes Fall]

The supers will be looking at the polls and who is viable, and what has happened in the news, and about the candidates, since the voting stopped.

They won't overlook the fact that Obama leads in pledged delegates. That would be hanging over their heads for the entirety.

And once Michigan revotes with Obama actually on the ballot he will lead including Florida and Michigan, so shut up J. J. before you copy and paste that again for the 268th time.