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Alcon
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« on: March 11, 2008, 11:25:05 AM »

Has Obama started campaigning here?  If so, to what degree?
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Alcon
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« Reply #1 on: March 11, 2008, 01:04:59 PM »

Interesting.  Wow.  80% of the vote is white and Obama gets 29% of it?  Fortunately all those white Democrats will all come back home in November and vote for Obama.

Yeah, sure they will.

How's that anymore ridiculous than expecting the black vote to come back to Hillary (which she gets an even lower percentage of)?

It's more reflexively Democratic?  It's not as if Democrats are bleeding margins among blacks as they are among, say, white voters in industrial Penn.
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« Reply #2 on: March 11, 2008, 01:08:09 PM »

Gotta love uni pollsters who act like they actually know something...

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The University of SurveyUSA?
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Alcon
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« Reply #3 on: March 12, 2008, 09:33:05 PM »

PA also has a lot more older voters - Strong for Hillary

60 and over by state, 2004 exit poll:

Ohio: 20%
Pennsylvania: 22%

A lot?
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« Reply #4 on: March 12, 2008, 10:17:44 PM »

No, but a closed primary would also result in a higher % of African Americans than an open one would. 

But having an open primary doesn't reduce the number of black voters, and unless Clinton does better (in net) among the crossover voters, that would only be good for Obama.
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« Reply #5 on: March 12, 2008, 10:25:05 PM »

PA also has a lot more older voters - Strong for Hillary

60 and over by state, 2004 exit poll:

Ohio: 20%
Pennsylvania: 22%

A lot?

More olds died in Ohio since then. Next.

Change between 2000 and 2006 in population over the age of 65, U.S. Census:

Ohio: 13.3% to 13.3% (unch)
Pennsylvania: 15.6% to 15.1% (-3.2%)

Next.
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Alcon
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« Reply #6 on: March 12, 2008, 10:29:49 PM »

PA also has a lot more older voters - Strong for Hillary

60 and over by state, 2004 exit poll:

Ohio: 20%
Pennsylvania: 22%

A lot?

More olds died in Ohio since then. Next.

Change between 2000 and 2006 in population over the age of 65, U.S. Census:

Ohio: 13.3% to 13.3% (unch)
Pennsylvania: 15.6% to 15.1% (-3.2%)

Next.

LOL at the naive.

Who believes the U.S. government figures these days?

In that case, I refer you to:

State of Ohio.  "Single Year of Age by Sex Estimates for Ohio: April 1, 2000 to July 1, 2006."

Pennsylvania State University.  "Population Demographics -- State of Pennsylvania."

Both of which agree with me: Ohio basically static, Pennsylvania a slight fall, definitely not more olds dying in Ohio.

punkass r-pa.
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« Reply #7 on: March 12, 2008, 10:34:06 PM »

Because I didn't realize you were kidding until about the point where I typed "punkass r-pa" Tongue
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