If the democrats survive a 2008 defeat...

[Person Man]

well?

[Person Man]

Option 5
Go away.

....and what will the republicans become "The Party"?

Say, are you running for or against the party?

[Person Man]

Option 2.

I'd hate to see the Democratic Party become a socially conservative yet an even more economically socialist party in nature. 

I agree.  I would love to see a more West-friendly Democratic Party.  The South needs to be ignored for a while by both parties.

For reals...theres a reason I have my sig.

[Person Man]

Try to build into the west by deemphasizing health care and taxes, but focuses on civil liberties, property rights and the end to the war...this way they can emphasize the GOP's neo-con leanings while trying to build a antithesis to it.

Could you expand on the part regarding property rights?  For some reason, I can't see Democrats going back on their environmentalist constituency in favor of ranchers, farmers, and other landowners. 

ahem, global warming and energy development hurts farmers, ranchers and sportsmen....also, developing a program that allows land owners to get in on clean energy might come over quite favorable.

[Person Man]

Democrats should ignore the Deep South altogether.   Why would the Democratic Party want to dumb themselves down to appeal to a constiuency that would never vote for them anyway in a national election?   The West is best.

That's what I have been saying. That strategy is maybe good for picking up a COUPLE of unreliable congressmen, but it doesn't really work on a level above that. I really don't know how McCaskill pulled it off.

[Person Man]

I mean, what if a majority won't vote for us under any circumstances yet will see us as having no contrast if we don't stand for what we believe.

[Person Man]

So, what is the winning strategy?

[Person Man]

Byron Dorgan is still relatively with us on social issues ... I would say if he was up for the job, we should nom him to be at least VP.

[Person Man]

What are some of the 2012 candidates we should realistically look at?

[Person Man]

What are some of the 2012 candidates we should realistically look at?

Mark Warner, Evan Bayh, Kathleen Sebelius, Tom Vilsack.   Possibly Ed Rendell.   Only because he strikes me as a tough, no-nonsense old school Democrat in the tradition of FDR, Truman.   He can get the white male vote, as can all the others I've mentioned.

I would say Brad Henry, too, but he looks too goofy.   Shallow?   Yes, but little stuff like that matters ya know.

Warner Sebelius and Rendell would probaby be the big three going into 2012.

[Person Man]

So basically Option 1 would basically just be us coming together to have a guy run?

[Person Man]

So, a stealth progressive?

[Person Man]

Yeah, if 2008 ends in defeat, we will probably never be out of Iraq anytime soon. The best way to deal with this issue would probably be to triangulate it...but how do we do that?