Was the Michigan January election fair and legitimate?

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No.

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I'll answer it this way, if the credentials committee chooses to seat them, or the convention chooses to seat them, yes.

And maybe pigs will fly.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

I'll answer it this way, if the credentials committee chooses to seat them, or the convention chooses to seat them, yes.

And maybe pigs will fly.

It takes a majority to do it, inclusive of the super delegates.

Ah yes, the Catch-22 argument again.

J. J.: Hillary can win if the Florida and Michigan delegations are seated.
Me: The DNC isn't going to seat them.
J. J.: A majority of delegates at the convention can vote to seat them.
Me: So Hillary can seat those delegations and win a majority if...she has a majority of delegates. Which would make the entire issue pointless.
J. J.: *silence*

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Some of the candidates names were off the ballot and it ultimately did not count. So no.

By choice, of course. 

Would that choice have been made if the presented facts were that the election would count?

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

Some of the candidates names were off the ballot and it ultimately did not count. So no.

They took their names off the list and/or did not follow the procedures to get their names added.  So, as far as that goes, yes it was a fair election.

That's like saying that if a runner is told that a race is scheduled to start at some time, then the time is later changed and the runner is not informed of the change, resulting in the runner missing the race, and then saying that it was the runner's decision not to show up and thus it was fair race and fair that they "lost".

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

I'll answer it this way, if the credentials committee chooses to seat them, or the convention chooses to seat them, yes.

And maybe pigs will fly.

It takes a majority to do it, inclusive of the super delegates.

Ah yes, the Catch-22 argument again.

J. J.: Hillary can win if the Florida and Michigan delegations are seated.
Me: The DNC isn't going to seat them.
J. J.: A majority of delegates at the convention can vote to seat them.
Me: So Hillary can seat those delegations and win a majority if...she has a majority of delegates. Which would make the entire issue pointless.
J. J.: *silence*

Because she can get a majority of the delegates with the super delegates and her own elected delegates.  She can walking into the convention without a plurality of the elected and get a plurality of the elected delegates.  Obama can no longer say, "I have more elected delegates than she has, so you should vote for me."

And the whole point of that argument is supposedly to sway superdelegates. If she already has a majority with superdelegates, it becomes moot.

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And the whole point of that argument is supposedly to sway superdelegates. If she already has a majority with super delegates, it becomes moot.

Did this ever occur to you that the super delegates really don't want to seen electing a candidate without a plurality of elected delegates, but would be happy to elect Hillary, if she has that plurality of elected delegates.  They may be willing to help her get those elected delegates.

OK, that's true if a majority of superdelegates were so in love with Hillary they just HAVE to anoint her but want to make it look fair. That doesn't appear to be the case though.

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Absolutely correct, but it is valid to argue that when the rules said the delegates would not count, and one comported oneself accordingly, to then do an after the fact deus ex machina reanimation of the living dead to load the dice, is dirty pool.

And also that the delegates allocated from Michigan do not at all represent the will of the voter.