Ranking the Presidents from top to buttom

[ncjake]

My ten favorite and least favorite. This probably contradicts older posts but oh well.

1. Ronald Reagan
2. George Washington
3. Theodore Roosevelt
4. James Madison
5. Thomas Jefferson
6. Jefferson Davis( I know)
7. George Bush
8. Andrew Johnson
9. George W. Bush
10. Dwight D. Eisenhower

Least Favorite:

1. John F. Kennedy (Cuban Killer)
2. Abraham Lincoln (Tyrant)
3. LBJ (socialist)
4. Andrew Jackson(Indian hater)
5. FDR (socialist)
6. Clinton (Felon)
7. Ulysses Grant (bribe taking South crusher)
8. Woodrow Wilson (uuggghh)
9.  Jimmy Carter (dimwit)
10. Did I mention JFK?

[zachman]

My ten favorite and least favorite. This probably contradicts older posts but oh well.

1. Ronald Reagan
2. George Washington
3. Theodore Roosevelt
4. James Madison
5. Thomas Jefferson
6. Jefferson Davis( I know)
7. George Bush
8. Andrew Johnson
9. George W. Bush
10. Dwight D. Eisenhower

Least Favorite:

1. John F. Kennedy (Cuban Killer)
2. Abraham Lincoln (Tyrant)
3. LBJ (socialist)
4. Andrew Jackson(Indian hater)
5. FDR (socialist)
6. Clinton (Felon)
7. Ulysses Grant (bribe taking South crusher)
8. Woodrow Wilson (uuggghh)
9.  Jimmy Carter (dimwit)
10. Did I mention JFK?

Real Accurate. You called Clinton a felon and Lincoln a tyrant. Bogus. Here are my worst picks:

1. Andrew Johnson (I have a friend named Andrew Johnson)
2. Franklin Pierce (A drunk anti-abolitionist from NH)
3. James Buchannan ( He couldn't keep anything under control)
4. Milard Filmore (Yet another lousy one term pre-civil war  president)
5. John Adams (Alien and Sedition Acts, first one-term president)
6. Warren Harding (That diamond scandal and the beginning of the roaring twenties)
7. Calvin Coolidge (Made reckless spending the Republican agenda)
8. George W. Bush (Must I explain? The weaknesses of Coolidge and Adams)
9. Ullyses S. Grant (A good general but a drunk president)
10. The presidents after Grant in the late 1800's (reckless  and unmemorable)

[ncjake]

Clinton commited a felony, therefore the felon moniker. Lincoln wouldnt let the states have thier moral right to break away when they felt they were not being represented, therefore the tyrant moniker

[© tweed]

Worst:

42. Herbert Hoover
41. James Buchanan
40. John Tyler
39. Andrew Johnson
38. Lyndon B. Johnson
37. Millard Fillmore
36. Ronald Reagan
35. Jimmy Carter
34. Martin Van Buren
33. Franklin Pierce

[zachman]

Oops! I forgot Herbert Hoover in my list. The means to investigate Clinton were illegal, as he did not commit any crime and therefore his perjury was not a felony.

Lincoln's proposed changes did not threaten Southern States' Constitution's and therefore they did not have the right to secede.

[MarkDel]

This should be amusing...

Zachman,

You say the "means to investigate" Clinton were illegal? Please explain this to me legally.

Also, you say he did not commit a crime, therefore his perjury was not a felony...please explain that one, since perjury is itself a crime.

[12th Doctor]

Personally, I don't like Grant (woah... corruption up the wazoo!), and Hoover (I think I heard a quote from his telling someone who was poor to eat the White House grass to get food... he seemed pretty insensitive to the working/unemployed man)if I'm wrong, correct me!)

What the HELL!!!!  Hoover never siad that.  That's liberal Bullsh*t propaganda.  Hoover was know for being one of the greatest humanitarians in history before he was president.  

[12th Doctor]

You know, I could have done what I almost felt like doing and flunk all of the Dem presidents, but since I, unlike most of you Dems, decided to approch this thing objectivly, I decided to put Dems on my list.  Kennedy is in my top 20.  So is LBJ.  So is FDR, inspite of my considerible dislike for his policies.  Truman is prominant on my list.  Yet you Dems put Reagan, the man who ended the Cold War and defeated the greatest threat ever to the freedom of mankind, and also, a HELL of a good guy at the bottom of your lists.  Can you make an unbiased judgement here?  I would even understand if you put Reagan at 15 or 20, but putting him at the very bottom near Andrew Johnson.  Why?  What are you trying to prove?

As for ncjake's comments:  I am a student of the Civil War.  I would match my knowledge of it up against anyone at anytime.  I am a fan of bothsides in the war.  I had relatives who fought for bothsides.  I can tell you that I don't view Lincoln as a Tyrant inspite of the fact that I like the Confederates and respect what they fought for.  I also don't view the South as a bunch of red-neck, ignorant oppressors who were fighting to keep slavery and couldn't wait to beat a negro, inspite of the fact that I like the north and respect what they fought for.  The southern cause to fight for states' rights and to preserve there way of life, (minus slavery, of course) was a noble one and deserves to be respected.  The northern cause of preserving the union and ending the 'peculiar institution' that was a sin of  ALL Americans (as Lincoln believed) was a noble one and deservse to be respected.  This task (the most difficult task asigned to any president in history) was assigned to Lincoln and he came through.  For that he is not only the greatest of all time, but the greatest president FOR all time.

[12th Doctor]

My ten favorite and least favorite. This probably contradicts older posts but oh well.

1. Ronald Reagan
2. George Washington
3. Theodore Roosevelt
4. James Madison
5. Thomas Jefferson
6. Jefferson Davis( I know)
7. George Bush
8. Andrew Johnson
9. George W. Bush
10. Dwight D. Eisenhower

Least Favorite:

1. John F. Kennedy (Cuban Killer)
2. Abraham Lincoln (Tyrant)
3. LBJ (socialist)
4. Andrew Jackson(Indian hater)
5. FDR (socialist)
6. Clinton (Felon)
7. Ulysses Grant (bribe taking South crusher)
8. Woodrow Wilson (uuggghh)
9.  Jimmy Carter (dimwit)
10. Did I mention JFK?

Real Accurate. You called Clinton a felon and Lincoln a tyrant. Bogus. Here are my worst picks:

1. Andrew Johnson (I have a friend named Andrew Johnson)
2. Franklin Pierce (A drunk anti-abolitionist from NH)
3. James Buchannan ( He couldn't keep anything under control)
4. Milard Filmore (Yet another lousy one term pre-civil war  president)
5. John Adams (Alien and Sedition Acts, first one-term president)
6. Warren Harding (That diamond scandal and the beginning of the roaring twenties)
7. Calvin Coolidge (Made reckless spending the Republican agenda)
8. George W. Bush (Must I explain? The weaknesses of Coolidge and Adams)
9. Ullyses S. Grant (A good general but a drunk president)
10. The presidents after Grant in the late 1800's (reckless  and unmemorable)

The main reason Adams signed the alien and sedition acts was that Jefferson and Burr were trying to sabatage his presidency from with-in.  Jefferson was acctually subverting Adam's forieng policy because he favored the French.

[Umengus]

For a belgian citizen:

1)Roosevelt (thanks!)
2)Lincoln (a republican! lol)
3)RFK (better than JFK)
4)JFK
5)Jefferson
6)Washington
7)Clinton (very funny!)
...

in last position:

30)Reagan (great communicator but nothing else...)
31)Nixon (Watergate...and a man who hadn't to be president)
32)Johnson: I don't know if he has killed Kennedy but viet nam is a good reason to hate this man...
33)Bush junior: no comment... I believe that it's a stupid guy (as his country? lol)  


And Hoover too but without Hoover, no Roosevelt thus thanks Hoover to have given 13 years of FDR!

[dunn]

For a belgian citizen:

1)Roosevelt (thanks!)
2)Lincoln (a republican! lol)
3)RFK (better than JFK)
4)JFK
5)Jefferson
6)Washington
7)Clinton (very funny!)
...

in last position:

30)Reagan (great communicator but nothing else...)
31)Nixon (Watergate...and a man who hadn't to be president)
32)Johnson: I don't know if he has killed Kennedy but viet nam is a good reason to hate this man...
33)Bush junior: no comment... I believe that it's a stupid guy (as his country? lol)  


And Hoover too but without Hoover, no Roosevelt thus thanks Hoover to have given 13 years of FDR!

Are you kidding?
there were 43 presidents, not 33
RFK was not a president
There were 2 'Roosvelts' and 2 'Johnson'
Is that a joke or what?

[12th Doctor]

For a belgian citizen:

1)Roosevelt (thanks!)
2)Lincoln (a republican! lol)
3)RFK (better than JFK)
4)JFK
5)Jefferson
6)Washington
7)Clinton (very funny!)
...

in last position:

30)Reagan (great communicator but nothing else...)
31)Nixon (Watergate...and a man who hadn't to be president)
32)Johnson: I don't know if he has killed Kennedy but viet nam is a good reason to hate this man...
33)Bush junior: no comment... I believe that it's a stupid guy (as his country? lol)  


And Hoover too but without Hoover, no Roosevelt thus thanks Hoover to have given 13 years of FDR!

Okay, well first of you insut us bycalling us stupid, then you say that RFK was a president?  Wait a second, who's stupid?

[Gustaf]

You know, I could have done what I almost felt like doing and flunk all of the Dem presidents, but since I, unlike most of you Dems, decided to approch this thing objectivly, I decided to put Dems on my list.  Kennedy is in my top 20.  So is LBJ.  So is FDR, inspite of my considerible dislike for his policies.  Truman is prominant on my list.  Yet you Dems put Reagan, the man who ended the Cold War and defeated the greatest threat ever to the freedom of mankind, and also, a HELL of a good guy at the bottom of your lists.  Can you make an unbiased judgement here?  I would even understand if you put Reagan at 15 or 20, but putting him at the very bottom near Andrew Johnson.  Why?  What are you trying to prove?

As for ncjake's comments:  I am a student of the Civil War.  I would match my knowledge of it up against anyone at anytime.  I am a fan of bothsides in the war.  I had relatives who fought for bothsides.  I can tell you that I don't view Lincoln as a Tyrant inspite of the fact that I like the Confederates and respect what they fought for.  I also don't view the South as a bunch of red-neck, ignorant oppressors who were fighting to keep slavery and couldn't wait to beat a negro, inspite of the fact that I like the north and respect what they fought for.  The southern cause to fight for states' rights and to preserve there way of life, (minus slavery, of course) was a noble one and deserves to be respected.  The northern cause of preserving the union and ending the 'peculiar institution' that was a sin of  ALL Americans (as Lincoln believed) was a noble one and deservse to be respected.  This task (the most difficult task asigned to any president in history) was assigned to Lincoln and he came through.  For that he is not only the greatest of all time, but the greatest president FOR all time.

I haven't checked it thoruoughly, but please prove to me that Dems rank Republicans worse than Reps rank Democrats on this thread. I have not had that impression.

[12th Doctor]

You know, I could have done what I almost felt like doing and flunk all of the Dem presidents, but since I, unlike most of you Dems, decided to approch this thing objectivly, I decided to put Dems on my list.  Kennedy is in my top 20.  So is LBJ.  So is FDR, inspite of my considerible dislike for his policies.  Truman is prominant on my list.  Yet you Dems put Reagan, the man who ended the Cold War and defeated the greatest threat ever to the freedom of mankind, and also, a HELL of a good guy at the bottom of your lists.  Can you make an unbiased judgement here?  I would even understand if you put Reagan at 15 or 20, but putting him at the very bottom near Andrew Johnson.  Why?  What are you trying to prove?

As for ncjake's comments:  I am a student of the Civil War.  I would match my knowledge of it up against anyone at anytime.  I am a fan of bothsides in the war.  I had relatives who fought for bothsides.  I can tell you that I don't view Lincoln as a Tyrant inspite of the fact that I like the Confederates and respect what they fought for.  I also don't view the South as a bunch of red-neck, ignorant oppressors who were fighting to keep slavery and couldn't wait to beat a negro, inspite of the fact that I like the north and respect what they fought for.  The southern cause to fight for states' rights and to preserve there way of life, (minus slavery, of course) was a noble one and deserves to be respected.  The northern cause of preserving the union and ending the 'peculiar institution' that was a sin of  ALL Americans (as Lincoln believed) was a noble one and deservse to be respected.  This task (the most difficult task asigned to any president in history) was assigned to Lincoln and he came through.  For that he is not only the greatest of all time, but the greatest president FOR all time.

I haven't checked it thoruoughly, but please prove to me that Dems rank Republicans worse than Reps rank Democrats on this thread. I have not had that impression.

You know me Gustaf, that's not the point.  I don't care that Reps have ranked ALL Dems low on there lists.  That doesn't mean that the Dems should respond in kind.  I think that ALL fair-minded people should have both Dems and Reps somewhere in there top 20.  Which ones is left to debate.  I have chastized memebers of my own party in the past for saying negative things about guys like Truman.  I just think that if we are going to be intelletually honest, there shouldn't be a list with Clinton on the top and Reagan and W on the bottom, or a list Reagan and W at the very top and Truman, LBJ, Jackson and Kennedy at the bottom.

[dunn]

 I had relatives who fought for bothsides.

They got to be really old...

[12th Doctor]

 I had relatives who fought for bothsides.

They got to be really old...

LOL  You crack me up.  

[dunn]

 I had relatives who fought for bothsides.

They got to be really old...

LOL  You crack me up.  

[Nation]

I had FDR at #1, Ike at #2, and Reagan at #8, for the guys in the 20th century. There were good Presidents this century from both parties.

[12th Doctor]

I had FDR at #1, Ike at #2, and Reagan at #8, for the guys in the 20th century. There were good Presidents this century from both parties.

You had him at #8 for this century BELOW Taft.  That's not very flatering.

[Umengus]

For a belgian citizen:

1)Roosevelt (thanks!)
2)Lincoln (a republican! lol)
3)RFK (better than JFK)
4)JFK
5)Jefferson
6)Washington
7)Clinton (very funny!)
...

in last position:

30)Reagan (great communicator but nothing else...)
31)Nixon (Watergate...and a man who hadn't to be president)
32)Johnson: I don't know if he has killed Kennedy but viet nam is a good reason to hate this man...
33)Bush junior: no comment... I believe that it's a stupid guy (as his country? lol)  


And Hoover too but without Hoover, no Roosevelt thus thanks Hoover to have given 13 years of FDR!

Are you kidding?
there were 43 presidents, not 33
RFK was not a president
There were 2 'Roosvelts' and 2 'Johnson'
Is that a joke or what?

lol no, it is not a joke.

Explications:

- I wrote randomly 33. It was for you see than it was the least good president. And the are lots of presidents that I don't know (ten for exemple...).

-RFK was not a president  but I believe (in my head and in my heart) that RFK would have been president in 1968 thus I consider that RFK has his place in the ranking.

- I spoke about Franklin Roosevelt (not Teddy) and LBJ (it's clear if you read the text)

-It wasn't a joke  

[Umengus]

For a belgian citizen:

1)Roosevelt (thanks!)
2)Lincoln (a republican! lol)
3)RFK (better than JFK)
4)JFK
5)Jefferson
6)Washington
7)Clinton (very funny!)
...

in last position:

30)Reagan (great communicator but nothing else...)
31)Nixon (Watergate...and a man who hadn't to be president)
32)Johnson: I don't know if he has killed Kennedy but viet nam is a good reason to hate this man...
33)Bush junior: no comment... I believe that it's a stupid guy (as his country? lol)  


And Hoover too but without Hoover, no Roosevelt thus thanks Hoover to have given 13 years of FDR!

Okay, well first of you insut us bycalling us stupid, then you say that RFK was a president?  Wait a second, who's stupid?

lol USA (or only republicans) has a (great) problem with humor.

And to show my culture, I give all presidents of USA (after WWII) and without text: FDR-Truman-Ike-JFK-LBJ-RFK (lol it's a joke it's Richard "watergate" Nixon)-Ford-Carter-Reagan-Bush 1-Clinton-Gore (ha no sorry, it's Bush junior. I thought that the winner was to be the candidate who had the most of votes but USA is a curious democracy.)

And, moreover, I can give you the name of the next president: JFK (what? still? yes...) and after it's Edwards and after why not the mayor of San Francisco?

Bonus: I can give french presidents too (and without text of course...) Do you want it?

[dunn]

my friend, I am not American and no republican. it was not funny, looked like you simply do not know

[Nation]

Well supersoulty, I don't believe he was one of the best. But I don't believe he was a horrible president either, if that's any compensation.

[Gustaf]

You know, I could have done what I almost felt like doing and flunk all of the Dem presidents, but since I, unlike most of you Dems, decided to approch this thing objectivly, I decided to put Dems on my list.  Kennedy is in my top 20.  So is LBJ.  So is FDR, inspite of my considerible dislike for his policies.  Truman is prominant on my list.  Yet you Dems put Reagan, the man who ended the Cold War and defeated the greatest threat ever to the freedom of mankind, and also, a HELL of a good guy at the bottom of your lists.  Can you make an unbiased judgement here?  I would even understand if you put Reagan at 15 or 20, but putting him at the very bottom near Andrew Johnson.  Why?  What are you trying to prove?

As for ncjake's comments:  I am a student of the Civil War.  I would match my knowledge of it up against anyone at anytime.  I am a fan of bothsides in the war.  I had relatives who fought for bothsides.  I can tell you that I don't view Lincoln as a Tyrant inspite of the fact that I like the Confederates and respect what they fought for.  I also don't view the South as a bunch of red-neck, ignorant oppressors who were fighting to keep slavery and couldn't wait to beat a negro, inspite of the fact that I like the north and respect what they fought for.  The southern cause to fight for states' rights and to preserve there way of life, (minus slavery, of course) was a noble one and deserves to be respected.  The northern cause of preserving the union and ending the 'peculiar institution' that was a sin of  ALL Americans (as Lincoln believed) was a noble one and deservse to be respected.  This task (the most difficult task asigned to any president in history) was assigned to Lincoln and he came through.  For that he is not only the greatest of all time, but the greatest president FOR all time.

I haven't checked it thoruoughly, but please prove to me that Dems rank Republicans worse than Reps rank Democrats on this thread. I have not had that impression.

You know me Gustaf, that's not the point.  I don't care that Reps have ranked ALL Dems low on there lists.  That doesn't mean that the Dems should respond in kind.  I think that ALL fair-minded people should have both Dems and Reps somewhere in there top 20.  Which ones is left to debate.  I have chastized memebers of my own party in the past for saying negative things about guys like Truman.  I just think that if we are going to be intelletually honest, there shouldn't be a list with Clinton on the top and Reagan and W on the bottom, or a list Reagan and W at the very top and Truman, LBJ, Jackson and Kennedy at the bottom.

OK, I agree with that. It's just that your post seemed to imply that Dems were the only ones doing this and that you and other noble Republicans were putting Dems up high. But I agree that an objective list would have to be bi-partisan. I will try to make one myself, but I cannot make up my mind...

[Gustaf]

For a belgian citizen:

1)Roosevelt (thanks!)
2)Lincoln (a republican! lol)
3)RFK (better than JFK)
4)JFK
5)Jefferson
6)Washington
7)Clinton (very funny!)
...

in last position:

30)Reagan (great communicator but nothing else...)
31)Nixon (Watergate...and a man who hadn't to be president)
32)Johnson: I don't know if he has killed Kennedy but viet nam is a good reason to hate this man...
33)Bush junior: no comment... I believe that it's a stupid guy (as his country? lol)  


And Hoover too but without Hoover, no Roosevelt thus thanks Hoover to have given 13 years of FDR!

Okay, well first of you insut us bycalling us stupid, then you say that RFK was a president?  Wait a second, who's stupid?

lol USA (or only republicans) has a (great) problem with humor.

And to show my culture, I give all presidents of USA (after WWII) and without text: FDR-Truman-Ike-JFK-LBJ-RFK (lol it's a joke it's Richard "watergate" Nixon)-Ford-Carter-Reagan-Bush 1-Clinton-Gore (ha no sorry, it's Bush junior. I thought that the winner was to be the candidate who had the most of votes but USA is a curious democracy.)

And, moreover, I can give you the name of the next president: JFK (what? still? yes...) and after it's Edwards and after why not the mayor of San Francisco?

Bonus: I can give french presidents too (and without text of course...) Do you want it?

No thanks, too many lists of politicians become depressing. And the US is a federal union of states, rather than a solid nation state. That results in 'curious democracy'. I personally think it's a stupid system, but you should acknowledge the reason for it. And if you're in favour of the EU, which I guess you are, our system is much, much worse in this respect...