"Poors"

[opebo]

"poors" sounds really condescending to me.

That's the whole idea.  One should try to reflect their real status in the social heirarchy - and they are unimaginablely low and hopeless and oppressed.

[opebo]

Exactly. It's not good to be poor.
 

The party of the working man my ass!

What do you mean? Do you think it is good to be poor? Poverty sucks. That's why we are the party of the working man. It sucks to be poor. Democrats think it is bad to be poor. Republicans think it is wrong to be poor.

Their are plenty of people who are "poor" who live quite happy lives. Sorry, but your insinuation of people who are poor as all destitute and w/out hope is ridiculous. Plenty of people in this world live full lives w/little money and usually their lives are much fuller then people like Paris Hilton (filthy rich folks).

We're talking politics, not psychology, States.  In our capitalist society, poors have no power, and live in a state highly dangerous and precarious - they could fall into homelessness and death so very easily.  If they are 'hardy' and 'salt of the earth' and thus don't really mind what is being done to them, that is an aspect of they psychological condition, and doesn't change the fact that they are in a bad way and horribly abused by their betters.

[opebo]

Funny.  "poors" in the West today have it better than any "poors" in history.

If so, it is only because of the welfare state.

[opebo]

Funny.  "poors" in the West today have it better than any "poors" in history.

If so, it is only because of the welfare state.

Ah, so  you agree we need to get rid of the welfare state? 

No, obviously it is my goal that poors be treated as well as the owning class.

[opebo]

Funny.  "poors" in the West today have it better than any "poors" in history.

If so, it is only because of the welfare state.

Ah, so  you agree we need to get rid of the welfare state? 

No, obviously it is my goal that poors be treated as well as the owning class.

Abolish the welfare state and they will be the owning class.

What ridiculous nonsense.  You are impressively deluded and simpleminded.  The privilege of the owners is State granted, and the welfare state gives poors just a tiny share in this.  Without it they have nothing.

[opebo]

Funny.  "poors" in the West today have it better than any "poors" in history.

If so, it is only because of the welfare state.

..and all the trickle down benifits of the wealthy (10 to 30 years later) that they'd never ever get (nobody would) if we didn't live with the free market.

You mean like old beat up Cadillacs?

[opebo]

No, like cell phones.

Those aren't any good.  But seriously poors used to be able to buy big old luxury cars 20 years old and get great transport for next to nothing.  Not any more of course.