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Who is the most overrated President?
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March 31, 2008, 07:41:59 pm »
Reagan, no doubt. Every GOP nut seems to love that senile old grandfather, despite the increased deficit, focus on religious fanatics, and his sticking a giant middle finger up to the poorer people in the country.
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Re: Who is the most overrated President?
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FDR, Reagan or Lincoln.
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Re: Who is the most overrated President?
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March 31, 2008, 08:25:48 pm »
FDR and Washington.
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March 31, 2008, 08:33:58 pm »
Reagan and JFK.
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March 31, 2008, 08:46:36 pm »
Reagan. Jefferson's also up there; he made some poor decisions (embargo/intercourse act, dismantling of military). Obviously he's still roughly in the top 1/3, but he definitely doesn't deserve to be in the top 5 as I see many people place him.
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Quote from: Thoughts Of A Dying Atheist on March 31, 2008, 08:33:58 pm
Reagan and JFK.
Aye, I forgot JFK.
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Quote from: Martha Gellhorn for The Atlantic 1961
The unique misfortune of the Palestinian refugees is that they are a weapon in what seems to be a permanent war...today, in the Middle East, you get a repeated sinking sensation about the Palestinian refugees: they are only a beginning, not an end. Their function is to hang around and be constantly useful as a goad. The ultimate aim is not such humane small potatoes as repatriating refugees.
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Re: Who is the most overrated President?
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March 31, 2008, 11:07:09 pm »
Reagan.
Honorable mention to Jackson, Grant, McKinley, and Coolidge.
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Re: Who is the most overrated President?
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March 31, 2008, 11:31:01 pm »
Lincoln and FDR.
Lincoln probably more so, since people seem to believe he "had" to preserve the Union. He just wanted to. There was no need to fight that disastrous war.
FDR I'm not even going to get into...every economic liberal's demigod (hyperbole). The idea that he won the Second World War II is also pushing the facts, if you want to assign thanks to anyone; perhaps you should look to Uncle Joe.
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Re: Who is the most overrated President?
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March 31, 2008, 11:50:03 pm »
Reagan. Wilson, Jackson, FDR, and JFK are also runner ups.
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Re: Who is the most overrated President?
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April 01, 2008, 12:16:34 am »
Ronald Reagan, John F. Kennedy and Franklin D. Roosevelt.
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Quote from: Barry Zuckerkorn on April 01, 2008, 12:16:34 am
Ronald Reagan, John F. Kennedy and Franklin D. Roosevelt.
Wilson is way more overrated than the last two. He basically suspended civil liberties in order to pursue an imperialist foreign policy that came back to bite us in the ass. Also he expanded segregation. At least FDR kept this country from falling apart (in addition to being strong in WWII), and JFK's New Frontier was very successful.
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Reagan, Wilson.
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Reagan, JFK, Lincoln
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Re: Who is the most overrated President?
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April 02, 2008, 08:45:21 pm »
Lincoln & FDR
Lincoln was a terrorist
FDR was a socialist
both suspended habeas corpus and drastically expanded the size and scope of the Federal government.
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April 02, 2008, 09:42:48 pm »
Reagan, Jackson, Wilson.
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April 04, 2008, 11:49:27 am »
Harry Truman. He has one of the most scandal ridden administrations in hisotry and oversaw a costly quagmire in Korea (say that 5-times fast). I give him credit for NATO and being (along with Reagan) one of the top two presidents in dealing with the Soviets, but his presidency was underwhelming. However, Harry didn't want the job so I should cut him some slack.
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Re: Who is the most overrated President?
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Reagan.
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Re: Who is the most overrated President?
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April 05, 2008, 01:42:57 am »
Reagan
JFK
Jefferson
In that order.
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Re: Who is the most overrated President?
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April 09, 2008, 11:57:23 pm »
FDR. He was fine with what Hitler was doing in Europe. If it wasn't for Pearl Harbour, you never would have entered WWII.
Wilson scores a close second - same again, but WWI.
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jeron
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Quote from: Smid on April 09, 2008, 11:57:23 pm
FDR. He was fine with what Hitler was doing in Europe. If it wasn't for Pearl Harbour, you never would have entered WWII.
Wilson scores a close second - same again, but WWI.
No, wrong. The US already delivered weapons to Britain before it entered the war. Public opinion and congress both were against the US entering the war, that's why FDR needed a good reason and the Japanese delivered it by attacking Pearl Harbour.
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jeron
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Re: Who is the most overrated President?
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April 10, 2008, 10:55:27 am »
Most overrated are JFK on the Democratic side and Reagan on the Republican.
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Re: Who is the most overrated President?
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April 10, 2008, 11:16:40 am »
Quote from: jeron on April 10, 2008, 10:55:27 am
Most overrated are JFK on the Democratic side and Reagan on the Republican.
I can agree with that. Although I think that's mainly due to how recent they are. Give them another 50 years and they may be downplayed by their respective parties.
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War on Want
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Re: Who is the most overrated President?
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Reagan or JFK
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Re: Who is the most overrated President?
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April 10, 2008, 08:42:22 pm »
Wilson by far.
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Re: Who is the most overrated President?
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JFK obviously.
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