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« on: April 05, 2008, 04:10:52 AM »

http://www.time-blog.com/real_clear_politics/

McCain 46 - Obama 44

McCain 50 - Clinton 41

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« Reply #1 on: April 05, 2008, 07:53:22 PM »

Hillary continues to sink.  Perhaps the worst run campaign in the history of American politics.
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« Reply #2 on: April 05, 2008, 08:06:46 PM »

Hillary continues to sink.  Perhaps the worst run campaign in the history of American politics.

Not even the worst in the 2008 cycle. That honor belongs to Rudy Giuliani. Clinton and Giuliani both started off being the early favorites to win their party's nominations; however, Clinton is still in the race for the Democratic nomination, while Giuliani didn't even manage to get out of the starting blocks in the race for the GOP nomination

It was arrogant of Giuliani to 'skip' the early contests by staking all on Florida

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« Reply #3 on: April 05, 2008, 08:17:17 PM »

Possibly.  But considering all the advantages her royal thighness had going in, my choice is Clinton.  Giuliani was at least swimming upstream against party mainstream beliefs on abortion, gun control, gay rights, etc.  That made his support a mile wide but an inch deep.

Either way, the Clinton campaign should be sued for malpractice.  Kind of an indication of how badly Clinton would have governed IMHO.  Anyway, she's all but done and the country has dodged a bullit.
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« Reply #4 on: April 05, 2008, 08:30:32 PM »

Possibly.  But considering all the advantages her royal thighness had going in, my choice is Clinton.  Giuliani was at least swimming upstream against party mainstream beliefs on abortion, gun control, gay rights, etc.  That made his support a mile wide but an inch deep.

Fair comment Smiley

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« Reply #5 on: April 06, 2008, 01:07:18 PM »

Hawk, you're kind of like me in that you won't believe the witch is dead until you actually see her feet sticking out from under the house.  Seems sometimes she appears to have nine lives -or more.
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« Reply #6 on: April 06, 2008, 01:47:12 PM »

Hawk, you're kind of like me in that you won't believe the witch is dead until you actually see her feet sticking out from under the house.  Seems sometimes she appears to have nine lives -or more.

Indeed and while there remains that 'race chasm' in the Democratic primary, she ain't dead yet. Obama must win the popular vote as well as most pledged delegates to be sure of the nomination being settled in his favor sooner rather than later. That is why he can't afford to let her score run away wins in PA or IN

He has fat chance of winning WV and KY. 'Appalachia' is just not good terrain for him, which means he should aim to win OR, MT and SD as comfortably as he can. Then there's PR

Then there's the question of MI and FL. A right balls-up if ever there was one Roll Eyes

Most of all, it's important that the Democratic nominee wins it fairly Smiley, be it Obama or Clinton. If they have the will to do so, supers can decide it in June but what will be their priori determinant? Pledged delegates? Popular vote? Polls? ....

As for the general, the way some commentators see it is that Obama has the 'wider net' (greater appeal than Clinton beyond the Democratic 'base') but the 'leakier boat' (a greater risk of losing a significant part of the Democratic 'base' to McCain)

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