Constitutional Amendment to Elect the Secretary of Forum Affairs [Debate Open]

[Meeker]

Just to clarify: to table would be to hold this aside for an undefined period of time?

Yes - I'd likely add a section to the legislative queue for tabled bills.


Nay

[Platypus]

Nay.

Let's just vote it down now.

[Јas]

Does anyone know if a tabled bill has ever come back to the floor?

[CultureKing]

Does anyone know if a tabled bill has ever come back to the floor?

I don't think so, basically it is like the same thing as voting down a bill except I see it as a way to quickly take down bills that really have no chance anyway (basically bills with 2/3 in opposition).

[Meeker]

Final Tally on Motion to Table

Aye: 4 (Lewis; Hashemite; CultureKing; Sam Spade)
Nay: 2 (Meekermariner; Hughento)
Abstain: 4 (Verily; Bacon King; Afleitch; Friz)

With four in favor, two opposed and four abstaining, this motion fails.

[Sam Spade]

I motion for a vote on this legislation.

[Meeker]

If no one has anything else to say, we'll move to voting on this legislation in 24 hours.

[Ebowed]

We are voting on the final passage of the legislation.


Constitutional Amendment to Elect the Secretary of Forum Affairs

1. Article II, Section 1, Clause 4 shall be amended to read as follows: The President shall appoint the Principal Officers of the executive departments who shall constitute the Cabinet with the exception of the Secretary of Forum Affairs except in the event that that office is vacated without a possible Deputy to replace them, with the advice and consent of the Senate, who shall all be registered voters. The President shall have power to dismiss any member of his Cabinet with the exception of the Secretary of Forum Affairs.

2. Article VIII, Section 2, Clause 2 shall be amended to read as follows: The Department of Forum Affairs shall be responsible for administering all elections to the Presidency, the Secretary and Deputy Secretary of Forum Affairs and the Senate. The Secretary of Forum Affairs shall be elected under the same method as outlined in Article II, Section 2, changing "President" to "Secretary of Forum Affairs" and changing "Vice-President" to "Deputy Secretary of Forum Affairs".

3. A new clause will be added after Article VIII, Section 2, Clause 2: In the event that the office of Secretary of Forum Affairs becomes vacant, the Deputy Secretary of Forum Affairs shall succeed them. In the event of a vacancy in the office of Deputy Secretary of Forum Affiars, a special election shall be held in accordance with Article 1, Section 4, Clause 5, changing "a Class B Senate seat" to "the Deputy Secretary of Forum Affairs". In the event that both the Secretary of Forum Affairs and the Deputy Secretary of Forum Affairs become vacant, the President shall nominate a replacement candidate as stated in Article II, Section 1, Clause 4. Filing the vacancy in the Secretary of Forum Affairs shall take precedence over all other actions before the Senate.

4. Re-number as appropriate the clauses in Article VIII, Section 2.

[minionofmidas]

Nay

[Friz]

Nay.

[Meeker]

Aye

[Verily]

Nay

[afleitch]

Nay

[Ebowed]

With 4 votes against, the legislation has enough votes to fail.  Senators have 24 hours to change their votes.

[Hash]

nay

[CultureKing]

Nay

[Platypus]

Nay

[Sam Spade]

No sir

[Meeker]

Sen. Sam Spade's vote occurred after the 24 hour window had elapsed and thus is not counted.


Final Tally on Final Passage

Aye: 1 (Meeker)
Nay: 7 (Lewis; Friz; Verily; Afleitch; Hashemite; CultureKing; Hughento)
Abstain: 2 (Sam Spade; Bacon King)

With one in favor, seven opposed and two abstaining, this amendment fails.

[Sam Spade]

The period available for voting on final passage is seven days, not seven minutes....  Still, no biggie.

[Meeker]

The period available for voting on final passage is seven days, not seven minutes....  Still, no biggie.

?

You voted on April 28 at 7pm, Ebowed started the 24 hour window on April 27 at 6:05 pm.

[Sam Spade]

The period available for voting on final passage is seven days, not seven minutes....  Still, no biggie.

?

You voted on April 28 at 7pm, Ebowed started the 24 hour window on April 27 at 6:05 pm.

Once again, votes for final passage of legislation are supposed to last seven days, not 24 hours.

[Meeker]

The period available for voting on final passage is seven days, not seven minutes....  Still, no biggie.

?

You voted on April 28 at 7pm, Ebowed started the 24 hour window on April 27 at 6:05 pm.

Once again, votes for final passage of legislation are supposed to last seven days, not 24 hours.

Section 2: Rules on the Changing of Votes

1. Until a piece of legislation under consideration has garnered enough votes either to pass or fail, no Senator shall be prohibited from changing his or her vote on the legislation.

2. Following the garnering of enough votes to either pass or fail, the PPT shall announce this fact publicly on the debate/voting thread. All Senators shall have a period of time lasting twenty-four (24) hours after this announcement during which they shall not be prohibited from changing their votes on the legislation.

3. Following the expiration of this twenty-four (24) hour time period, the PPT shall publicly declare the vote total to be final and shall apply said vote total to the legislation. All Senators shall be prohibited from changing their votes on the legislation after this time.


The rules say the voting period is a maximum of 7 days - not that it lasts for 7 days. Once enough votes to pass or fail are cast (which there were) then there is 24 hours left in the voting window.

[Sam Spade]

I think I see what you're saying now, because I missed Ebowed's earlier "legislation has enough votes to fail".  OK!

[Small Business Owner of Any Repute]

I get thrown off by this thread every time I visit the Senate floor.  Verily, you should probably kill the [Debate Open] part of the thread title.