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« on: April 15, 2008, 09:53:50 am »
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New Poll: Pennsylvania President by Rasmussen on 2008-04-14

Summary:
Clinton:
50%
Obama:
41%
Other:
0%
Undecided:
9%

Poll Source URL: Full Poll Details

Pennsylvania Democratic Primary

Hillary Clinton  50%

Barack Obama  41%

Not Sure  9%
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« Reply #1 on: April 15, 2008, 10:12:56 am »
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I think Survey USA has her up 14 today.

She'll win by 9 or 10.
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« Reply #2 on: April 15, 2008, 10:19:34 am »
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Clinton 50% (+2)
Obama 41% (-2)

Last poll was 4/6.
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« Reply #3 on: April 15, 2008, 10:27:19 am »
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Fast Eddie Rendell said yesterday Hillary will win by up to 8 points.  I don't know if he's got access to Hillary's internal polls, is sandbagging it , or if that's just his best guess.
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« Reply #4 on: April 15, 2008, 10:41:29 am »
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Clinton is probably opening up the gap.  The 'bots have had a reasonably track record and the last two polls were holding at +5. 

This one was also largely post "bitter."  We'll know by Friday.

I also suspect Fast Eddie of low balling this. Wink
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« Reply #5 on: April 15, 2008, 10:43:43 am »
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Clinton is probably opening up the gap.  The 'bots have had a reasonably track record and the last two polls were holding at +5. 

This one was also largely post "bitter."  We'll know by Friday.

I also suspect Fast Eddie of low balling this. Wink

Eh?  It was entirely post-"bitter."  The poll was conducted yesterday.
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« Reply #6 on: April 15, 2008, 10:55:29 am »
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Clinton is probably opening up the gap.  The 'bots have had a reasonably track record and the last two polls were holding at +5. 

This one was also largely post "bitter."  We'll know by Friday.

I also suspect Fast Eddie of low balling this. Wink

Eh?  It was entirely post-"bitter."  The poll was conducted yesterday.

There are still going to be people, probably a fair number, that hadn't heard it yet.  It takes a while for it to just to get it disseminated, especially since the local coverage didn't start until Saturday.  It will take even longer to sink in.

You won't see the full effect until the end of the week.
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« Reply #7 on: April 15, 2008, 11:15:47 am »
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...and this could just be noise of course.
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« Reply #8 on: April 15, 2008, 11:22:37 am »
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The gaffe will hurt in the GE among Indies not in the Democratic Primaries (exception Kentucky and West Virginia) where Dems are mostly liberal and buy into the clinging to religion and guns anyway. 

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« Reply #9 on: April 15, 2008, 11:25:43 am »
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The gaffe will hurt in the GE among Indies not in the Democratic Primaries (exception Kentucky and West Virginia) where Dems are mostly liberal and buy into the clinging to religion and guns anyway.

According to SUSA, 57% of PA Independents didn't find it offensive.

And is anyone going to remember it then? Doubtful. John McCain's inevitable next moment of senility will be a bigger factor.
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« Reply #10 on: April 15, 2008, 12:37:00 pm »
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According to Rasmussen, by 51-27 % nationwide independents disagreed with Obama's statement.

I can assure you that the McCain campaign will make sure that it's not forgotten.  Obama isn't the only one who gets to frame an issue in the general.
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« Reply #11 on: April 15, 2008, 08:14:15 pm »
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The gaffe will hurt in the GE among Indies not in the Democratic Primaries (exception Kentucky and West Virginia) where Dems are mostly liberal and buy into the clinging to religion and guns anyway.

According to SUSA, 57% of PA Independents didn't find it offensive.

Independents cannot vote in the PA primary.

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And is anyone going to remember it then? Doubtful. John McCain's inevitable next moment of senility will be a bigger factor.

This one is not going away.
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« Reply #12 on: April 15, 2008, 08:32:05 pm »
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The gaffe will hurt in the GE among Indies not in the Democratic Primaries (exception Kentucky and West Virginia) where Dems are mostly liberal and buy into the clinging to religion and guns anyway.

According to SUSA, 57% of PA Independents didn't find it offensive.

Independents cannot vote in the PA primary.

Read the post he was quoting.
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« Reply #13 on: April 15, 2008, 10:18:37 pm »
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The gaffe will hurt in the GE among Indies not in the Democratic Primaries (exception Kentucky and West Virginia) where Dems are mostly liberal and buy into the clinging to religion and guns anyway.

According to SUSA, 57% of PA Independents didn't find it offensive.

Independents cannot vote in the PA primary.

Read the post he was quoting.

I did.  The PA independents will not be in the mix, at this point.
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« Reply #14 on: April 15, 2008, 10:32:29 pm »
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this poll looks spot-on.

im predicting a clinton win of 8-10 points.

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« Reply #15 on: April 15, 2008, 11:56:21 pm »
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The gaffe will hurt in the GE among Indies not in the Democratic Primaries (exception Kentucky and West Virginia) where Dems are mostly liberal and buy into the clinging to religion and guns anyway.

Now does bolding it finally get the point through your thick f**king skull?
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« Reply #16 on: April 15, 2008, 11:58:37 pm »
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The gaffe will hurt in the GE among Indies not in the Democratic Primaries (exception Kentucky and West Virginia) where Dems are mostly liberal and buy into the clinging to religion and guns anyway.

Now does bolding it finally get the point through your thick f**king skull?

Wow. You find it irritating to get a point across to a specific poster after repeated attempts? I know a few members of the forum that tried doing that with this one poster for quite some time now...it's really funny actually...
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« Reply #17 on: April 16, 2008, 10:00:51 am »
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The gaffe will hurt in the GE among Indies not in the Democratic Primaries (exception Kentucky and West Virginia) where Dems are mostly liberal and buy into the clinging to religion and guns anyway.

Now does bolding it finally get the point through your thick f**king skull?

I'm saying it is completely irrelevant to the current PA discussion, plus because of the party system here, there are relative few independents (probably under 15%), so it would not be a particularly big factor in the Fall.
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« Reply #18 on: April 16, 2008, 02:26:30 pm »
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If you think it's completely irrelevant to the current discussion then you should be talking to agcatter, not me since he's the one who brought up the topic.
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« Reply #19 on: April 16, 2008, 02:31:25 pm »
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The gaffe will hurt in the GE among Indies not in the Democratic Primaries (exception Kentucky and West Virginia) where Dems are mostly liberal and buy into the clinging to religion and guns anyway.

According to SUSA, 57% of PA Independents didn't find it offensive.

Independents cannot vote in the PA primary.

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And is anyone going to remember it then? Doubtful. John McCain's inevitable next moment of senility will be a bigger factor.

This one is not going away.

I don't think this will be much worse in the long run than the Farrakhan endorsement. The Wright debacle was a much bigger deal for the media than it was for the public. What Obama said was basically true, and while there's audio of him saying it, it's of such terrible quality that it can't be used in an attack ad.
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« Reply #20 on: April 16, 2008, 04:46:04 pm »
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If you think it's completely irrelevant to the current discussion then you should be talking to agcatter, not me since he's the one who brought up the topic.

Zack the Barack Hack, here is my original quote:

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The gaffe will hurt in the GE among Indies not in the Democratic Primaries (exception Kentucky and West Virginia) where Dems are mostly liberal and buy into the clinging to religion and guns anyway.

According to SUSA, 57% of PA Independents didn't find it offensive.

Independents cannot vote in the PA primary.


You will note that I quoted both posts. Roll Eyes
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