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PA PrimD: Rasmussen: Clinton Leads PA by 9%
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April 15, 2008, 09:53:50 am »
New Poll:
Pennsylvania President by Rasmussen on 2008-04-14
Summary:
Clinton:
50%
Obama:
41%
Other:
0%
Undecided:
9%
Poll Source URL:
Full Poll Details
Pennsylvania Democratic Primary
Hillary Clinton 50%
Barack Obama 41%
Not Sure 9%
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agcatter
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Re: PA PrimD: Rasmussen: Clinton Leads PA by 9%
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April 15, 2008, 10:12:56 am »
I think Survey USA has her up 14 today.
She'll win by 9 or 10.
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Re: PA PrimD: Rasmussen: Clinton Leads PA by 9%
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April 15, 2008, 10:19:34 am »
Clinton 50% (+2)
Obama 41% (-2)
Last poll was 4/6.
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agcatter
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Re: PA PrimD: Rasmussen: Clinton Leads PA by 9%
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April 15, 2008, 10:27:19 am »
Fast Eddie Rendell said yesterday Hillary will win by up to 8 points. I don't know if he's got access to Hillary's internal polls, is sandbagging it , or if that's just his best guess.
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J. J.
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Re: PA PrimD: Rasmussen: Clinton Leads PA by 9%
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April 15, 2008, 10:41:29 am »
Clinton is probably opening up the gap. The 'bots have had a reasonably track record and the last two polls were holding at +5.
This one was also
largely
post "bitter." We'll know by Friday.
I also suspect Fast Eddie of low balling this.
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Re: PA PrimD: Rasmussen: Clinton Leads PA by 9%
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April 15, 2008, 10:43:43 am »
Quote from: J. J. on April 15, 2008, 10:41:29 am
Clinton is probably opening up the gap. The 'bots have had a reasonably track record and the last two polls were holding at +5.
This one was also
largely
post "bitter." We'll know by Friday.
I also suspect Fast Eddie of low balling this.
Eh? It was entirely post-"bitter." The poll was conducted yesterday.
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J. J.
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Re: PA PrimD: Rasmussen: Clinton Leads PA by 9%
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April 15, 2008, 10:55:29 am »
Quote from: Alcon on April 15, 2008, 10:43:43 am
Quote from: J. J. on April 15, 2008, 10:41:29 am
Clinton is probably opening up the gap. The 'bots have had a reasonably track record and the last two polls were holding at +5.
This one was also
largely
post "bitter." We'll know by Friday.
I also suspect Fast Eddie of low balling this.
Eh? It was entirely post-"bitter." The poll was conducted yesterday.
There are still going to be people, probably a fair number, that hadn't heard it yet. It takes a while for it to just to get it disseminated, especially since the local coverage didn't start until Saturday. It will take even longer to sink in.
You won't see the full effect until the end of the week.
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Re: PA PrimD: Rasmussen: Clinton Leads PA by 9%
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April 15, 2008, 11:15:47 am »
...and this could just be noise of course.
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Re: PA PrimD: Rasmussen: Clinton Leads PA by 9%
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April 15, 2008, 11:22:37 am »
The gaffe will hurt in the GE among Indies not in the Democratic Primaries (exception Kentucky and West Virginia) where Dems are mostly liberal and buy into the clinging to religion and guns anyway.
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Re: PA PrimD: Rasmussen: Clinton Leads PA by 9%
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April 15, 2008, 11:25:43 am »
Quote from: agcatter on April 15, 2008, 11:22:37 am
The gaffe will hurt in the GE among Indies not in the Democratic Primaries (exception Kentucky and West Virginia) where Dems are mostly liberal and buy into the clinging to religion and guns anyway.
According to SUSA, 57% of PA Independents didn't find it offensive.
And is anyone going to remember it then? Doubtful. John McCain's inevitable next moment of senility will be a bigger factor.
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Re: PA PrimD: Rasmussen: Clinton Leads PA by 9%
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April 15, 2008, 12:37:00 pm »
According to Rasmussen, by 51-27 % nationwide independents disagreed with Obama's statement.
I can assure you that the McCain campaign will make sure that it's not forgotten. Obama isn't the only one who gets to frame an issue in the general.
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Re: PA PrimD: Rasmussen: Clinton Leads PA by 9%
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April 15, 2008, 08:14:15 pm »
Quote from: Kicking Himself Just To Show How He Still Bleeds on April 15, 2008, 11:25:43 am
Quote from: agcatter on April 15, 2008, 11:22:37 am
The gaffe will hurt in the GE among Indies not in the Democratic Primaries (exception Kentucky and West Virginia) where Dems are mostly liberal and buy into the clinging to religion and guns anyway.
According to SUSA, 57% of PA Independents didn't find it offensive.
Independents cannot vote in the PA primary.
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And is anyone going to remember it then? Doubtful. John McCain's inevitable next moment of senility will be a bigger factor.
This one is
not
going away.
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J. J.
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- Londo Molari
"Every government are parliaments of whores.
The trouble is, in a democracy the whores are us." - P. J. O'Rourke
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Re: PA PrimD: Rasmussen: Clinton Leads PA by 9%
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April 15, 2008, 08:32:05 pm »
Quote from: J. J. on April 15, 2008, 08:14:15 pm
Quote from: Kicking Himself Just To Show How He Still Bleeds on April 15, 2008, 11:25:43 am
Quote from: agcatter on April 15, 2008, 11:22:37 am
The gaffe will hurt in the GE among Indies not in the Democratic Primaries (exception Kentucky and West Virginia) where Dems are mostly liberal and buy into the clinging to religion and guns anyway.
According to SUSA, 57% of PA Independents didn't find it offensive.
Independents cannot vote in the PA primary.
Read the post he was quoting.
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Re: PA PrimD: Rasmussen: Clinton Leads PA by 9%
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April 15, 2008, 10:18:37 pm »
Quote from: Alcon on April 15, 2008, 08:32:05 pm
Quote from: J. J. on April 15, 2008, 08:14:15 pm
Quote from: Kicking Himself Just To Show How He Still Bleeds on April 15, 2008, 11:25:43 am
Quote from: agcatter on April 15, 2008, 11:22:37 am
The gaffe will hurt in the GE among Indies not in the Democratic Primaries (exception Kentucky and West Virginia) where Dems are mostly liberal and buy into the clinging to religion and guns anyway.
According to SUSA, 57% of PA Independents didn't find it offensive.
Independents cannot vote in the PA primary.
Read the post he was quoting.
I did. The PA independents will not be in the mix, at this point.
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J. J.
"Actually, .. now that you mention it...."
- Londo Molari
"Every government are parliaments of whores.
The trouble is, in a democracy the whores are us." - P. J. O'Rourke
"Wa sala, wa lala."
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Re: PA PrimD: Rasmussen: Clinton Leads PA by 9%
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April 15, 2008, 10:32:29 pm »
this poll looks spot-on.
im predicting a clinton win of 8-10 points.
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Re: PA PrimD: Rasmussen: Clinton Leads PA by 9%
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April 15, 2008, 11:56:21 pm »
Quote from: agcatter on April 15, 2008, 11:22:37 am
The gaffe will hurt in the GE among Indies not in the Democratic Primaries
(exception Kentucky and West Virginia) where Dems are mostly liberal and buy into the clinging to religion and guns anyway.
Now does bolding it finally get the point through your thick f**king skull?
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Re: PA PrimD: Rasmussen: Clinton Leads PA by 9%
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Quote from: Kicking Himself Just To Show How He Still Bleeds on April 15, 2008, 11:56:21 pm
Quote from: agcatter on April 15, 2008, 11:22:37 am
The gaffe will hurt in the GE among Indies not in the Democratic Primaries
(exception Kentucky and West Virginia) where Dems are mostly liberal and buy into the clinging to religion and guns anyway.
Now does bolding it finally get the point through your thick f**king skull?
Wow. You find it irritating to get a point across to a specific poster after repeated attempts? I know a few members of the forum that tried doing that with this one poster for quite some time now...it's really funny actually...
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Re: PA PrimD: Rasmussen: Clinton Leads PA by 9%
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Quote from: Kicking Himself Just To Show How He Still Bleeds on April 15, 2008, 11:56:21 pm
Quote from: agcatter on April 15, 2008, 11:22:37 am
The gaffe will hurt in the GE among Indies not in the Democratic Primaries
(exception Kentucky and West Virginia) where Dems are mostly liberal and buy into the clinging to religion and guns anyway.
Now does bolding it finally get the point through your thick f**king skull?
I'm saying it is completely irrelevant to the current PA discussion, plus because of the party system here, there are relative few independents (probably under 15%), so it would not be a particularly big factor in the Fall.
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J. J.
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Re: PA PrimD: Rasmussen: Clinton Leads PA by 9%
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April 16, 2008, 02:26:30 pm »
If you think it's completely irrelevant to the current discussion then you should be talking to agcatter, not me since he's the one who brought up the topic.
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Re: PA PrimD: Rasmussen: Clinton Leads PA by 9%
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April 16, 2008, 02:31:25 pm »
Quote from: J. J. on April 15, 2008, 08:14:15 pm
Quote from: Kicking Himself Just To Show How He Still Bleeds on April 15, 2008, 11:25:43 am
Quote from: agcatter on April 15, 2008, 11:22:37 am
The gaffe will hurt in the GE among Indies not in the Democratic Primaries (exception Kentucky and West Virginia) where Dems are mostly liberal and buy into the clinging to religion and guns anyway.
According to SUSA, 57% of PA Independents didn't find it offensive.
Independents cannot vote in the PA primary.
Quote
And is anyone going to remember it then? Doubtful. John McCain's inevitable next moment of senility will be a bigger factor.
This one is
not
going away.
I don't think this will be much worse in the long run than the Farrakhan endorsement. The Wright debacle was a much bigger deal for the media than it was for the public. What Obama said was basically true, and while there's audio of him saying it, it's of such terrible quality that it can't be used in an attack ad.
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Re: PA PrimD: Rasmussen: Clinton Leads PA by 9%
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April 16, 2008, 04:46:04 pm »
Quote from: She Wears My Blood on April 16, 2008, 02:26:30 pm
If you think it's completely irrelevant to the current discussion then you should be talking to agcatter, not me since he's the one who brought up the topic.
Zack the Barack Hack
, here is my original quote:
Barak
Quote from: J. J. on April 15, 2008, 08:14:15 pm
Quote from: Kicking Himself Just To Show How He Still Bleeds on April 15, 2008, 11:25:43 am
Quote from: agcatter on April 15, 2008, 11:22:37 am
The gaffe will hurt in the GE among Indies not in the Democratic Primaries (exception Kentucky and West Virginia) where Dems are mostly liberal and buy into the clinging to religion and guns anyway.
According to SUSA, 57% of PA Independents didn't find it offensive.
Independents cannot vote in the PA primary.
You will note that I quoted
both
posts.
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J. J.
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The trouble is, in a democracy the whores are us." - P. J. O'Rourke
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