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[Small Business Owner of Any Repute]

My problem here is that the issue you take offense to—the wiretapping—is something that the GOVERNMENT was the key bad actor in, not the telecom companies.

But since we can't punish the government because we are the government, the bad actor is going to start filing suit against the accomplice.

[Associate Justice PiT]

Policeman: Hey.  You.  Park your car over here.  I want to talk to you.

Driver:  Okay.

Policeman: I am going to write you a ticket.

Driver: For what?

Policeman: For parking in the no parking zone right here.  That's illegal.

Driver: But you just told me to park here.

Policeman: Yup.

Driver: You're going to write me a ticket for something you told me to do?

Policeman: Yes.  You should have known better than to follow an order from your government.

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And then it goes to court and the ticket gets thrown out.

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     Which is groovy for the driver who had to waste time & money fighting the ticket.

Which could be applied to any case where a defendant is eventually found innocent...

And it's not like these are poor drivers. They're multi-billion dollar multi-national corporations with hundreds of lawyers.

     & which should be applied to any case where a defendent was found innocent after being charged frivolously.

     Nevertheless, even though the corporations are plenty rich, it kind of sucks that they have to waste time dealing with something that happened through no fault of their own. Per the president's example of a driver being punished for following the government's instructions.

So if we pay the corporations' court costs in the event that they're found innocent would you support?

If that's Moderates problem than he could just issue an executive order to that effect.

     Yeah, I would support it in that case. I don't imagine there would be enough cases where this happened to really put a significant dent in the treasury.

[Meeker]

My problem here is that the issue you take offense to—the wiretapping—is something that the GOVERNMENT was the key bad actor in, not the telecom companies.

But since we can't punish the government because we are the government, the bad actor is going to start filing suit against the accomplice.

We could punish the government by punishing those who instituted the program (something which I would support in real life but is unfeasible to do in this game for obvious reasons).

But the telecom companies assisted the government in violating the law, which makes them guilty as well. If the telecoms feel they were pressured or coerced into going along with it, then they can argue that in court.

[Small Business Owner of Any Repute]

In case anyone is wondering, I've long since made my decision as to what to do with this bill.


In unrelated news, 7 days have already passed on this.

[minionofmidas]

Thank you!

[Meeker]

I didn't want to say anything in case you tried to pull a technicality.

But hooray!

[Colin]

After seven days of Presidential inactivity, this bill passes.

[Small Business Owner of Any Repute]

Bumping this for Brandon—this bill became law without my signature.

[Brandon H]

I will add this tonight when I get home from work. The title still says [Final passage at vote]. I was looking for Passed or Failed in the title.

[minionofmidas]

I will add this tonight when I get home from work. The title still says [Final passage at vote]. I was looking for Passed or Failed in the title.

That's because it opened under one PPT and passed under another. Colin couldn't edit Meeker's titles, I can't edit Colin's titles now (nothing passed yet, though. But won't take much longer - 3 hours to be precise. Well, 3 hours til it reaches the President's desk.)

[Brandon H]

This has been wiki'd into law.
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