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Wiz from Wis in Mass
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« on: April 16, 2008, 09:28:09 am »
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New Poll: Pennsylvania President by Public Policy Polling on 2008-04-15

Summary:
Obama:
45%
Clinton:
42%
Other:
0%
Undecided:
13%

Poll Source URL: Full Poll Details
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Wiz from Wis in Mass
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« Reply #1 on: April 16, 2008, 09:29:23 am »
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Well, now we'll know who's right. PPP or SUSA. Let the battle begin!
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« Reply #2 on: April 16, 2008, 09:33:40 am »
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The undecideds are still waaay too high....plus dont they always seem to break for Clinton at the very last minute...aka New Hampshire/Ohio?
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« Reply #3 on: April 16, 2008, 09:45:10 am »
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Quote from: H.A.A.R.P. on April 16, 2008, 09:33:40 am
The undecideds are still waaay too high....plus dont they always seem to break for Clinton at the very last minute...aka New Hampshire/Ohio?

In Wisconsin they broke for Obama, though not by a huge margin. Things always act a certain way, until they don't.
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« Reply #4 on: April 16, 2008, 09:55:23 am »
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Quote from: H.A.A.R.P. on April 16, 2008, 09:33:40 am
The undecideds are still waaay too high....plus dont they always seem to break for Clinton at the very last minute...aka New Hampshire/Ohio?

Yea you are right, I see Clinton winning by 5%.
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« Reply #5 on: April 16, 2008, 10:03:11 am »
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PPP got one right (WI) but they have shown big differences, both ways in PA.
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« Reply #6 on: April 16, 2008, 10:05:43 am »
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Quote from: Wiz in Wis on April 16, 2008, 09:28:09 am
Summary:
Obama:
54%
Clinton:
42%
Other:
0%
Undecided:
13%

That's a bit more than 3 points.  Huh
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« Reply #7 on: April 16, 2008, 10:07:55 am »
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Quote from: Wiz in Wis on April 16, 2008, 09:28:09 am
New Poll: Pennsylvania President by Public Policy Polling on 2008-04-15

Summary:
Obama:
54%
Clinton:
42%
Other:
0%
Undecided:
13%

Poll Source URL: Full Poll Details


last time I checked 54-42 = 12, not 3.  Are my math skills eroding?
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« Reply #8 on: April 16, 2008, 10:11:12 am »
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It's 45-42, according to the Press release, and PPP is called it a "statistical dead heat."
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« Reply #9 on: April 16, 2008, 10:14:33 am »
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Quote from: J. J. on April 16, 2008, 10:11:12 am
It's 45-42, according to the Press release, and PPP is called it a "statistical dead heat."
makes more sense, especially since there were also 13% undecided.

I still hate that phrase  - "statistical dead heat"  - it's a falsehood.  IF this were a totally perfectly done poll, it would NOT be a statistical dead heat.  It would be MUCH more likely Obama is ahead than Hillary.  That said, I don't believe this poll is accurate at all.
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« Reply #10 on: April 16, 2008, 11:01:18 am »
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Numbers fixed
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« Reply #11 on: April 16, 2008, 11:56:15 am »
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Well Ill believe the countless polls showing Obama trailing over this one having him ahead.  I have to give them credit for not fudging their numbers to make it look like the rest.

I'm not really buying it, but they'll look like geniuses if they're right.
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« Reply #12 on: April 17, 2008, 05:30:23 am »
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PPP still has time to put out a poll showing a wild swing to one candidate.
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« Reply #13 on: April 17, 2008, 06:27:47 pm »
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I trust whatever PPP puts out right beforehand.  They did pretty well in Wisconsin, Ohio, and Texas on the last try IMO. 
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« Reply #14 on: April 18, 2008, 10:47:23 am »
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i'm not saying that this is correct, but PPP has an very good track record in polls near election day this cycle. 
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« Reply #15 on: April 18, 2008, 04:50:10 pm »
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Quote from: TakeOurCountryBack on April 18, 2008, 10:47:23 am
i'm not saying that this is correct, but PPP has an very good track record in polls near election day this cycle. 

I'm thinking we'll get one more from them on either Monday or Tuesday.  They like to sneak one in at the last minute.
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