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« on: April 23, 2008, 08:23:39 AM »

Even though Oklahoma weighed in heavily in favor of Hillary Clinton over 2 1/2 months ago, the governor of the Sooner State has endorsed Barack Obama whose only county win in Oklahoma was Oklahoma County.

As much as I love Oklahoma and love Gov. Henry, this is pretty much a useless endorsement, save for the superdelegate that Obama receives, considering the only Democrat who could do remotely well in Oklahoma is Hillary Clinton.  Believe me, Barack Obama will keep John McCain under 60%, but Big Mac will go no lower than 57%, with at least a 15 point win.  Hillary would keep McCain well under 55% with no more than a 10 point win.  Since it looks like Hillary Clinton is probably not going to get the nomination, then I'll be the first one to put Oklahoma back to a solid-red state, just not quite as big of a win as 2004.
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« Reply #1 on: April 23, 2008, 08:25:48 AM »

If the over and under is 60 in Oklahoma vs Obama I'll take the over in a heartbeat.
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« Reply #2 on: April 23, 2008, 08:30:18 AM »

If the over and under is 60 in Oklahoma vs Obama I'll take the over in a heartbeat.

Well, obviously...
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« Reply #3 on: April 23, 2008, 08:33:42 AM »

Oklahoma might have surprised everybody with competitiveness this cycle - if the Reps had nominated Giuliani or Romney rather than a Christian. And the Dems had nominated a white southern male, although that's of secondary importance. Clinton vs McCain will not see the Dems doing "remotely well" (though she'd presumably not get whipped into quite as fluffy a cream as Obama). I don't think McCain can repeat Bush's all-county sweep, but that's irrespective of Dem candidate.
Actually, I wouldn't rule it out 100%...
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« Reply #4 on: April 23, 2008, 08:35:42 AM »

The only thing that matters is supers... that a super from a state Clinton trounced Obama in endorsed Obama the day after Clinton won PA indicates something about where superdelegates are headed overall methinks.
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« Reply #5 on: April 23, 2008, 08:38:58 AM »

The only thing that matters is supers... that a super from a state Clinton trounced Obama in endorsed Obama the day after Clinton won PA indicates something about where superdelegates are headed overall methinks.

Possibly... but then again, Brad Sunday School Henry is not your everyday-type super.
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« Reply #6 on: April 23, 2008, 08:54:19 AM »

Congrats to obama. Maybe that will keep mccain under 65% in Oklahoma.
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« Reply #7 on: April 23, 2008, 12:39:55 PM »

OK, considering some people (well actually only 3) don't get it, I would like to remind everyone of this again:

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« Reply #8 on: April 23, 2008, 01:41:34 PM »

Not everything will be like 2004 forever.

McCain: 51%
Clinton: 49%

McCain: 63%
Obama: 37%
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« Reply #9 on: April 23, 2008, 01:45:41 PM »

THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING.
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« Reply #10 on: April 23, 2008, 01:49:56 PM »

OKLAHOMA!
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« Reply #11 on: April 23, 2008, 02:48:08 PM »

I would like to remind everyone of this again:

 

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« Reply #12 on: April 23, 2008, 03:12:01 PM »

lulz.
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« Reply #13 on: April 23, 2008, 03:19:15 PM »


As I said, from an Obama campaign standpoint, its pretty much a useless endorsement save for the superdelegate he receives.
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« Reply #14 on: April 23, 2008, 04:19:45 PM »

Not everything will be like 2004 forever.

McCain: 51%
Clinton: 49%

McCain: 63%
Obama: 37%
You should be banned just for thinking that Hillary could get within 2 in OK
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« Reply #15 on: April 23, 2008, 04:23:36 PM »

Not everything will be like 2004 forever.

McCain: 51%
Clinton: 49%

McCain: 63%
Obama: 37%

No one's saying it will be.  We are just saying you're nuts to think that Hillary Clinton could be seriously competitive in Oklahoma in 2008
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« Reply #16 on: April 23, 2008, 05:36:19 PM »

Every superdelegate counts at this point.  Obviously it doesn't do anything for Obama as far as election performance but it does bring him one delegate closer to officially ending this thing.
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« Reply #17 on: April 23, 2008, 10:04:36 PM »

Oklahoma might have surprised everybody with competitiveness this cycle - if the Reps had nominated Giuliani or Romney rather than a Christian. And the Dems had nominated a white southern male, although that's of secondary importance. Clinton vs McCain will not see the Dems doing "remotely well" (though she'd presumably not get whipped into quite as fluffy a cream as Obama). I don't think McCain can repeat Bush's all-county sweep, but that's irrespective of Dem candidate.
Actually, I wouldn't rule it out 100%...


Giuliani and Romney are Christians.
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« Reply #18 on: April 23, 2008, 10:06:15 PM »

looks like someone is running for vice president.
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« Reply #19 on: April 23, 2008, 10:38:14 PM »

looks like someone is running for vice president.

Exactly what I thought.  Which doesn't discount Henry genuinely liking Obama's platform and so forth.  But yeah -- he's hoping to make it onto the short list. 

I wouldn't hold my breath, Brad.
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« Reply #20 on: April 23, 2008, 10:46:50 PM »

Oklahoma might have surprised everybody with competitiveness this cycle - if the Reps had nominated Giuliani or Romney rather than a Christian. And the Dems had nominated a white southern male, although that's of secondary importance. Clinton vs McCain will not see the Dems doing "remotely well" (though she'd presumably not get whipped into quite as fluffy a cream as Obama). I don't think McCain can repeat Bush's all-county sweep, but that's irrespective of Dem candidate.
Actually, I wouldn't rule it out 100%...


Giuliani and Romney are Christians.

Rudy is a heretic, and Godless. How do I know that?  I read it on the internet! 
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« Reply #21 on: April 23, 2008, 11:05:58 PM »

Oklahoma might have surprised everybody with competitiveness this cycle - if the Reps had nominated Giuliani or Romney rather than a Christian. And the Dems had nominated a white southern male, although that's of secondary importance. Clinton vs McCain will not see the Dems doing "remotely well" (though she'd presumably not get whipped into quite as fluffy a cream as Obama). I don't think McCain can repeat Bush's all-county sweep, but that's irrespective of Dem candidate.
Actually, I wouldn't rule it out 100%...


Giuliani and Romney are Christians.
Giuliani is, but last time I checked Mormons aren't Christians...
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« Reply #22 on: April 23, 2008, 11:08:00 PM »

Stupid semantic debate ahoy!  Stupid semantic debate ahoy!
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« Reply #23 on: April 23, 2008, 11:14:19 PM »

Stupid semantic debate ahoy!  Stupid semantic debate ahoy!

Debating whether Mormons are Christians just isn't your bag eh?  You prefer examining precinct returns in some precinct 3000 miles away from you, buried away in Astoria New York (a heavily Greek neighborhood in Queens for those who are not precinct junkies) or something. You are way out  there on the continuum; not as far out as I am however!
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« Reply #24 on: April 24, 2008, 06:39:20 AM »
« Edited: April 24, 2008, 06:42:08 AM by Michael Z »

Every superdelegate counts at this point.  Obviously it doesn't do anything for Obama as far as election performance but it does bring him one delegate closer to officially ending this thing.

One can but hope. The superdelegates are effectively Hillary's last hope since it's virtually impossible for her to overtake Obama in the caucus/primary numbers.

The fact is this - for her to win the nomination, she has to undermine Obama so severely that his campaign is irretrievably damaged and the superdelegates decide she's the more electable candidate in a GE. Such a scenario would benefit her, would probably bring her into the White House, but in the long-run it would be nothing short of a disaster for the Democratic Party, mainly because of the rancour it would cause with the party grassroots. It would split the party right down the middle for the best part of a decade.
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