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Lincoln Republican
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« on: April 23, 2008, 10:04:36 PM »

Oklahoma might have surprised everybody with competitiveness this cycle - if the Reps had nominated Giuliani or Romney rather than a Christian. And the Dems had nominated a white southern male, although that's of secondary importance. Clinton vs McCain will not see the Dems doing "remotely well" (though she'd presumably not get whipped into quite as fluffy a cream as Obama). I don't think McCain can repeat Bush's all-county sweep, but that's irrespective of Dem candidate.
Actually, I wouldn't rule it out 100%...


Giuliani and Romney are Christians.
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« Reply #1 on: May 03, 2008, 11:39:02 AM »

Oklahoma might have surprised everybody with competitiveness this cycle - if the Reps had nominated Giuliani or Romney rather than a Christian. And the Dems had nominated a white southern male, although that's of secondary importance. Clinton vs McCain will not see the Dems doing "remotely well" (though she'd presumably not get whipped into quite as fluffy a cream as Obama). I don't think McCain can repeat Bush's all-county sweep, but that's irrespective of Dem candidate.
Actually, I wouldn't rule it out 100%...


Giuliani and Romney are Christians.
Giuliani is, but last time I checked Mormons aren't Christians...

The fact that Mormons are Christians is not in doubt.

The fact that you are a misinformed, close minded bigot is as well not in doubt. 
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« Reply #2 on: May 03, 2008, 10:11:02 PM »

The fact that Mormons are Christians is not in doubt.

The fact that you are a misinformed, close minded bigot is as well not in doubt. 

Y'know, as recently as a few decades ago, many Mormons rather proudly denied he mantle of "Christian."  There are a number of important doctrinal differences that many Christian sects feel that Christians are defined by a number of specific fundamental beliefs (including the Trinity).  Mormons, on the other hand, use the definition of "Christian" as being a follower of Christ.

I think the Mormons' definition, as opposed to Evilmexicandictator's and the conservative Protestants', is more apt.  But you're arguing over definition, not over substance.  You can't reject Evilmexicandictator's definition of "Christian" simply because you do not like it, and then complain that he isn't respecting your faith (or Mitt Romney's, whatever the case may be).  It's a double standard.  If his definition is part of his faith, it should be off-limits based on what you say.  Anything less is "bigoted," right?

Besides, who cares if they are Christians or not?  Seriously.  Pedantry.

Members of the Mormon faith without reservation declare their Christianity.  Check the church web site.  I have studied extensively on this faith, as well as on many other faiths.  The real name of the church is The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints.  Who are we, or who is anyone else, to be disputing the church statements? 

I take information from the source, i.e. the church, not from anti church sites and not from hate sites.

The same goes for any faith or church I study about.
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