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Question: With which party would you choose to affiliate yourself with, based on the descriptions below?
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Republican Party
 
#2
Democratic Party
 
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Reform Party
 
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Green Party
 
#5
Libertarian Party
 
#6
Constitution Party
 
#7
Populist Party
 
#8
Nationalist Party
 
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« on: April 24, 2008, 07:25:24 PM »

Drawn in large part from AltWorlder's thread, though I have expanded upon it a little, where I could.  Where possible, I lifted AltWorlder's own descriptions of the various parties:
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Republican Party: Economically conservative, supports cultural federalism (i.e. advocates the states' rights position on most hot-button issues like abortion and gay marriage), and is interventionist (with a tendency towards unilateralism) on foreign policy.   

Democratic Party: Basically the ideal party as envisioned by Ebowed & Co on most issues, but is generally interventionist on foreign policy, though more supportive of multilateral institutions like the United Nations.

Reform Party: Imagine Ross Perot hadn't jumped ship, and remained in control of his personal vehicle.  The Reform Party is pretty much the centrist party with insurgent intentions but a rather bland platform- fiscal responsibility, balanced budgets, campaign finance reform, moderation in social issues, etc.  However, that's the sort of different-but-not-scary-different thing that Independents might vote for every so often.  This Reform Party would actually live past the Clinton administration without falling apart, and have the slightly libertarian (probably more 'classical liberal') bent to appeal to people such as Schwarzenegger or Bloomberg.  Also is supportive of an interventionist foreign policy.

Green Party: Imagine if you will a Green version of the Libertarian Reform Caucus in control of the United States Green Party. 

Libertarian Party: Basically the current party, though one dominated by the Libertarian Reform Caucus (just think of John Dibble as your quintessential Libertarian).

Constitution Party: A less fringe version of the far right we know.  Perhaps Pat Buchanan had really joined them instead of taking over Reform.  Paleocons with a theocratic bent, plus some unrealized theocratic dreams.  But somehow moderated to have more appeal, probably by appealing more to the grassroots movement conservatives that populate places such as Free Republic.

Populist Party: Composed of the more moderate but not liberal elements of the Evangelical Movement (think Rick Warren and Jim Wallis), plus conservative minorities, Southern/Midwesterners who are tired of Republican economic policies, maybe.  In any case, this party would appeal to a lot of people in both of the two major parties right now (much like a moderate Libertarian Party would), but in reality they're unable to break away and form their own movement.  Are foreign policy interventionists.

Nationalist Party: Lou Dobbs type nativists.  Or perhaps Huey Long type populists.  Not adverse to government intervention to protect their personal interests.  Perhaps more socially conservative than the Populists, but their extremism is mostly related to the immigration issue. Are non-interventionist on foreign policy, like the Green, Libertarian, and Constitution parties.

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« Reply #1 on: April 24, 2008, 11:45:45 PM »

Libertarian still, but I'd give hard looks to the Reform and Green candidates.
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« Reply #2 on: April 25, 2008, 07:06:08 AM »

Reform, maybe Dem or Greenie.
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« Reply #3 on: April 25, 2008, 08:51:04 AM »

LP, but I'd look at voting for CP & Reform candidates, as well.
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« Reply #4 on: April 25, 2008, 10:30:45 AM »
« Edited: April 25, 2008, 11:08:23 AM by Htmldon, voted most partisan member 3 years in a row! »

Reform, Republican or Populist
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« Reply #5 on: April 25, 2008, 01:04:21 PM »

Reform/Libertarian for the most part.
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« Reply #6 on: April 25, 2008, 01:13:58 PM »

Probably Reform...but the name disturbs me...too akin to the cuckoo reform party we've known and (not) loved since the 90s
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« Reply #7 on: April 25, 2008, 01:25:15 PM »

Reform maybe, and I'd look at Greens, Libertarians, and Democrats.
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« Reply #8 on: April 25, 2008, 01:32:48 PM »

Democrats/Reform/Populist, I would be a Populist.
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« Reply #9 on: April 25, 2008, 03:47:56 PM »

Populist Party, which a mixture of democratic (I am gay).
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« Reply #10 on: April 25, 2008, 03:48:30 PM »

Populist Party, which a mixture of democratic (I am gay).
I wasn't aware.
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« Reply #11 on: April 25, 2008, 03:50:01 PM »

Populist Party, which a mixture of democratic (I am gay).
I wasn't aware.

I mean, many people of the populist party would be homophobes.
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« Reply #12 on: April 25, 2008, 04:15:22 PM »

Green-Libertarian-Reform swing voter, much as in Germany I'd be a Green-FDP swing voter. Yes, I know the two parties hate each other.
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« Reply #13 on: April 27, 2008, 09:28:59 AM »

Lean Reform, but could also go Democratic.
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« Reply #14 on: April 27, 2008, 09:39:34 AM »

I would definatley still be a Democrat, but I would probably also occasionally vote for good Populist, Reform and Green candidates.
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« Reply #15 on: April 28, 2008, 08:16:53 PM »

Populist
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« Reply #16 on: May 01, 2008, 02:28:51 PM »
« Edited: May 01, 2008, 02:34:32 PM by AltWorlder »

Probably Reform...but the name disturbs me...too akin to the cuckoo reform party we've known and (not) loved since the 90s

They're meant to be descended from that same party, however they Perot stayed at its helm and so it wasn't tore apart by his battles with Ventura and Buchanan.

I guess I need to think of more things to describe the Nationalists.
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« Reply #17 on: May 02, 2008, 09:40:07 AM »

1st: Democrat
2nd: Reform
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« Reply #18 on: May 31, 2008, 03:12:13 PM »

What major ideologies in American politics are we missing here?  What other possible hypothetical parties can there be?

I'm also interested as to why no one would support the Nationalists.  I guess it's because they're crypto-proto-fascists in the vein of European Far Rightists (except without the anti-Semitism).
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« Reply #19 on: May 31, 2008, 07:11:53 PM »

Democrat.  Possibly populist, because I am a huge Jim Wallis fan.  But I'd be reticent to leave my party.

Interesting there is no Socialist option. 
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« Reply #20 on: May 31, 2008, 07:46:02 PM »

None fit me very well. And so it goes. But the least 'bad" is the GOP. I am kind of a political mess actually, almost sui generis, and just not clubable. Cheers.
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« Reply #21 on: May 31, 2008, 07:53:07 PM »

Democratic, though I wouldn't be happy with foreign policy.
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« Reply #22 on: May 31, 2008, 08:23:37 PM »

I'd vote reform most of the time but if the libertarians ran a more moderate candidate I'd vote for them at the time.
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« Reply #23 on: May 31, 2008, 09:46:50 PM »

Interesting there is no Socialist option. 

The Greens take up the far left position.  I'm sure there are (myriads of) socialist parties in the U.S., all fragmented and none strong at all.
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« Reply #24 on: May 31, 2008, 10:49:55 PM »

Green then Democratic
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