FINAL nc predictions

[Flying Dog]

57-43 oBAMA

[TomC]

No freakin' clue. Obama by 7.

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

Obama will NOT get 40% + of the whites. I don't know why you all are under that impression.

[True Democrat]

53-46 Obama

[Josh/Devilman88]

Obama will NOT get 40% + of the whites. I don't know why you all are under that impression.

I believe he could, I don't think he will.

[JSojourner]

Obama by 6%, maybe a smidge more.

[Joe Republic]

Obama will NOT get 40% + of the whites. I don't know why you all are under that impression.

The source of this belief is most likely Virginia, where he won 52% of the white vote.

[WalterMitty]

Obama will NOT get 40% + of the whites. I don't know why you all are under that impression.

The source of this belief is most likely Virginia, where he won 52% of the white vote.

1.  nc is not va
2.  joe, even you would have to reluctantly acknowledge that obama-mania has faded somewhat since those virginia days.

[Saxwsylvania]

Obama by 14.0368%

[Joe Republic]

1.  nc is not va
2.  joe, even you would have to reluctantly acknowledge that obama-mania has faded somewhat since those virginia days.

For about the seventeenth time, please stop attributing particular opinions to me and then attacking me for holding them.  Re-read my post and tell me where I said I disagreed with AHDuke's assessment.

[jokerman]

Obama will NOT get 40% + of the whites. I don't know why you all are under that impression.

The source of this belief is most likely Virginia, where he won 52% of the white vote.

1.  nc is not va
2.  joe, even you would have to reluctantly acknowledge that obama-mania has faded somewhat since those virginia days.

Clinton probably would win the white vote in Virginia by several points if the primary was held today.

[jokerman]

Obama 53.5%
Clinton 46.5%

[elcorazon]

Obama will NOT get 40% + of the whites. I don't know why you all are under that impression.

The source of this belief is most likely Virginia, where he won 52% of the white vote.

1.  nc is not va
2.  joe, even you would have to reluctantly acknowledge that obama-mania has faded somewhat since those virginia days.

yay clinton.  she successfully has turned the race into whites vs. blacks.  nice job.

[WalterMitty]

Obama will NOT get 40% + of the whites. I don't know why you all are under that impression.

The source of this belief is most likely Virginia, where he won 52% of the white vote.

1.  nc is not va
2.  joe, even you would have to reluctantly acknowledge that obama-mania has faded somewhat since those virginia days.

Clinton probably would win the white vote in Virginia by several points if the primary was held today.

at least several points.  probably 10 or so.

[ChrisFromNJ]

Obama +5, but it could be more depending on black turnout.

And SUSA comes out with their final poll just a few minutes ago and predicts Obama +5. Knowing SUSA's track record, I may be right.

[Josh/Devilman88]

Obama will NOT get 40% + of the whites. I don't know why you all are under that impression.

The source of this belief is most likely Virginia, where he won 52% of the white vote.

1.  nc is not va
2.  joe, even you would have to reluctantly acknowledge that obama-mania has faded somewhat since those virginia days.

Clinton probably would win the white vote in Virginia by several points if the primary was held today.

at least several points.  probably 10 or so.

I still say Obama will break the 40% mark with white voters. Well put it this way, it won't shock me if he does or doesn't.

[Josh/Devilman88]

Obama +5, but it could be more depending on black turnout.

And SUSA comes out with their final poll just a few minutes ago and predicts Obama +5. Knowing SUSA's track record, I may be right.

But SUSA has underpolled the southern states. I don't believe any polling company has got close to predicting a sountern state right. I could be wrong.

[ChrisFromNJ]

Obama +5, but it could be more depending on black turnout.

And SUSA comes out with their final poll just a few minutes ago and predicts Obama +5. Knowing SUSA's track record, I may be right.

But SUSA has underpolled the southern states. I don't believe any polling company has got close to predicting a sountern state right. I could be wrong.

Who knows, really. But SurveyUSA does have the best track record by far of all the pollsters, and I see no reason to doubt them. I'll have to see the crosstabs when they come out.

[Josh/Devilman88]

Obama +5, but it could be more depending on black turnout.

And SUSA comes out with their final poll just a few minutes ago and predicts Obama +5. Knowing SUSA's track record, I may be right.

But SUSA has underpolled the southern states. I don't believe any polling company has got close to predicting a sountern state right. I could be wrong.

Who knows, really. But SurveyUSA does have the best track record by far of all the pollsters, and I see no reason to doubt them. I'll have to see the crosstabs when they come out.

Not in the south they don't. SUSA doesn't do that hot with the southern states polling them.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

So far no pollster has nailed any of the southern states this election.

SUSA has been one of the closest often, but usually they were the one understating Obama the least in those cases. I'm thinking PPP might be the one to look to here despite their PA snafu (which they completely owned up to), they did destroy everyone else in Wisconsin with a similar pattern and are based out of NC.

[J. J.]

NC - Obama wins but under preforms, 4-5 points above Clinton.

[Joe Republic]

Obama will NOT get 40% + of the whites. I don't know why you all are under that impression.

The source of this belief is most likely Virginia, where he won 52% of the white vote.

1.  nc is not va
2.  joe, even you would have to reluctantly acknowledge that obama-mania has faded somewhat since those virginia days.

Clinton probably would win the white vote in Virginia by several points if the primary was held today.

at least several points.  probably 10 or so.

I accept your apology. 

[Gustaf]

Obama will NOT get 40% + of the whites. I don't know why you all are under that impression.

The source of this belief is most likely Virginia, where he won 52% of the white vote.

1.  nc is not va
2.  joe, even you would have to reluctantly acknowledge that obama-mania has faded somewhat since those virginia days.

Clinton probably would win the white vote in Virginia by several points if the primary was held today.

at least several points.  probably 10 or so.

I accept your apology. 

Don't you have more, eh, important things to attend to, Joe?

[Joe Republic]

Don't you have more, eh, important things to attend to, Joe?

Oh yeah!  Ok, let's say that you rolled only 3's and 5's, and your opponent(s) rolled 4's, and you ended up with 3 less battalions than you expected but overall better off.

[Gustaf]

Don't you have more, eh, important things to attend to, Joe?

Oh yeah!  Ok, let's say that you rolled only 3's and 5's, and your opponent(s) rolled 4's, and you ended up with 3 less battalions than you expected but overall better off.

Don't toy with my feelings like that...

and I'm not even entirely sure what that meant...:S