Fines on businesses that hire illegal aliens

[CARLHAYDEN]

Second is the series of questions.

[Padfoot]

Yes, yes, yes one thousand times yes.

[Хahar 🤔]

Certainly not. Do we want Mexicans doing work in America, or Chinese doing work in China?

[dead0man]

It depends.  You can't expect a small businessman to be able to investigate everybody he hires with the last name of Sanchez.  You can't fine a business that is doing everything they can.

On the other hand, if the company knows they're illegal (i.e. no paperwork at all not just fake ones), then yeah, fine the hell out of them.

[MODU]

Obviously.

[Ebowed]

Only if the business has violated labor, safety or minimum wage regulations in doing so.

Fining solely for the employment of an undocumented immigrant; no, of course not.

[NDN]

Obviously my answer is yes. But a large part of the problem is NAFTA and farm subsidies. That's hit a lot of rural areas hard south of the border. That the Mexican government is deliberately allowing them to sneak in over here instead of addressing it's own problems only makes things worse. We need to overhaul our overall trade and foreign policy, anything else will just be a band-aid solution.

[Ban my account ffs!]

Only if the business has violated labor, safety or minimum wage regulations in doing so.

Fining solely for the employment of an undocumented immigrant; no, of course not.

[Ban my account ffs!]

Obviously my answer is yes. But a large part of the problem is NAFTA and farm subsidies. That's hit a lot of rural areas hard south of the border. That the Mexican government is deliberately allowing them to sneak in over here instead of addressing it's own problems only makes things worse. We need to overhaul our overall trade and foreign policy, anything else will just be a band-aid solution.

We could just estimate how much illegal immigrants cost the American economy overall, and divide that amount out and charge it as a percentage onto any imports from Mexico.  That way, the fewer people they send over hte border, the more they save on sending products to the U.S.

[Bacon King]

Only if the business has violated labor, safety or minimum wage regulations in doing so.

Fining solely for the employment of an undocumented immigrant; no, of course not.

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

Yes and no.  The only way to stop people from coming here illegally for economic reasons is to make it too costly to the employer to hire them.  If we aren't going to meaningfully sanction employers then we should stop restricting economic immigration.

[War on Want]

Certainly not. Do we want Mexicans doing work in America, or Chinese doing work in China?