PR Electoral Method

[Kaine for Senate '18]

Say that we had an electoral system equal to the Democratic Primaries, where candidates get a proportion of EV equal to their total in that state, with a 15% threshold.  Say that the Democrat gets 53% in California, they would receive 29 EV, instead of all 55.

It would also make the EV total more equal to the PV results, as 1960, where the PV was Kennedy 49.72% to Nixon's 49.55% shows:

PR Results:
Kennedy: 272 (50.84%)
Nixon: 263 (49.16%

Actual Results:
Kennedy: 303 (56.6%)
Nixon: 219 (43.4%)

I'll get through with 1964-2004 tomorrow.  What do you think of this method?

[True Democrat]

1968 and 1992 should be interesting.  (Also, Anderson should get some votes from Massachusetts in 1980.)

[Kaine for Senate '18]

1968 and 1992 should be interesting.  (Also, Anderson should get some votes from Massachusetts in 1980.)

Yeah; I see the election going to the House in those years.

[Kaine for Senate '18]

1964 (Real PV and PR EV in Parentheses)
Johnson: 319 (59%, 61.05%)
Goldwater: 216 (40%, 38.47%)
Unpledged: 3 (1%, 0.30%)

1968 (Real PV and PR EV in Parentheses)
Humphrey: 246 (45.7%, 42.72%)
Nixon: 243 (45.1%, 43.42%
Wallace: 49 (9.2%, 13.53%)

1972 (Real PV and PR EV in Parentheses)
Nixon: 333 (61.89%, 60.67%)
McGovern: 205 (38.11%, 37.52%)

[Colin]

I don't know how you are awarding the PR delegates, whether there is a threshold or something, but with no threshold Schmitz should win an elector from California with his 2.78% of the vote.

[Kaine for Senate '18]

I don't know how you are awarding the PR delegates, whether there is a threshold or something, but with no threshold Schmitz should win an elector from California with his 2.78% of the vote.

There is a 15% threshold.

[Hash]

I don't know how you are awarding the PR delegates, whether there is a threshold or something, but with no threshold Schmitz should win an elector from California with his 2.78% of the vote.

There is a 15% threshold.

Jesus Christ that's high.

[Colin]

I don't know how you are awarding the PR delegates, whether there is a threshold or something, but with no threshold Schmitz should win an elector from California with his 2.78% of the vote.

There is a 15% threshold.

Jesus Christ that's high.

Goddamn, that beats even the 10%, set by the military dictatorship, threshold in Turkey.

[DWPerry]

Why not have the threshold set based on number of Electors in the State?

[Hash]

Why not have the threshold set based on number of Electors in the State?

Because that's crazy.

[Хahar 🤔]

Why have a threshold? It's not like there'd be some massive instability otherwise.

[Bacon King]

15% threshold is because that's how it is in the democratic primary, guys.

[Хahar 🤔]

15% threshold is because that's how it is in the democratic primary, guys.

Ah, but of course.

[Kaine for Senate '18]

1976 (Real PV and PR EV in Parentheses)
Carter: 273 (50.7%, 50.08%)
Ford: 265 (49.3%, 48.02)

1980 (Real PV and PR EV in Parentheses)
Reagan: 284 (52.7%, 50.75%)
Carter: 252 (46.8%, 41.01%)
Anderson: 2 (0.37%, 6.61%)

[Albus Dumbledore]

Kind of impossible to predict. A PR system would lead to the 2 parties breaking up into multiple smaller parties.

[Iosif is a COTHO]

if Ben has stopped, I'll try and do the rest:

1984

Reagan: 324 60.22%
Mondale: 214  39.78%

As it was, electoral vote was 525-13. Popular vote was 58.77%-40.56%

1988

Bush: 292   54.28%
Dukakis: 246  45.72%

As it was, electoral vote was 426-111. Popular vote was 53.37%-45.65%

[Iosif is a COTHO]

1992

Clinton: 240  44.61%
Bush: 211    39.22%
Perot: 87      16.17%

Election goes to the House

As it was, electoral vote was 370-168-0. Popular vote was 43.01%-37.45%-18.91%

I might skip to 2000 since any mention of the 1996 election makes me sleepy.

[Iosif is a COTHO]

2000

Gore: 271  50.37%
Bush: 267  49.63%

Exactly the reverse of the real electoral college total (ignoring the D.C faithless elector)

[Kaine for Senate '18]

Thanks for finishing this; I totally forgot about it.  As you can see, the PR method is a much better metric than the winner-take-all method we have now.

[Hash]

Thanks for finishing this; I totally forgot about it.  As you can see, the PR method is a much better metric than the winner-take-all method we have now.

Not with a ridiculous 15% threshold. Even Turkey has one lower!

[Хahar 🤔]

Why even have a threshold? The House can always be a last resort.

[Iosif is a COTHO]

2004:

Bush: 276  51.30%
Kerry: 262  48.70%

As it was, electoral vote was 286-252. Popular vote was 50.73%-48.27%

[defe07]

I think if PR should be used to allocate Electoral Votes, the only threshold should be 1/n, where n is equal to the number of Electoral Votes in a state.

[Bluegrass Cruiser 420]

I think if PR should be used to allocate Electoral Votes, the only threshold should be 1/n, where n is equal to the number of Electoral Votes in a state.

Man do you know how many third party candidates might actually get an EV in CA with sucha system in place?  It would definitely make the presidential election more interesting.

[Хahar 🤔]

I think if PR should be used to allocate Electoral Votes, the only threshold should be 1/n, where n is equal to the number of Electoral Votes in a state.

Man do you know how many third party candidates might actually get an EV in CA with sucha system in place?  It would definitely make the presidential election more interesting.

Not many. Perot and Schmitz (though that year was abnormal in many ways).