WV PrimD: Other Source: Clinton Leads WV by 40%

[Sibboleth]

secondly, in what states do black voters tip the balance.  sure, obama would do a few percentage points better among mississippi blacks than hillary would against mccain.  so what?  the state is a loss no matter what.

Michigan, Ohio, Pennsylvania?

blacks tip the balance in those states?

let's take pennsylvania for example...if obama doesnt win in places where democrats have to win to carry the state: erie, scranton/wilkes-barre, and working class areas around pittsburgh like beaver county....how in the hell does he win the state?

there arent enough blacks in philly or hand-wringers in delaware county to make up the lost votes.

Similarly, if blacks don't turn out heavily in Philly, Detroit or Cleveland, Clinton's going to have a hard time winning PA, MI, or OH.

In conclusion, each candidate has f***ed the chances of the other candidate. Hooo-ray.

[agcatter]

Hmm.  Hillary leads in most polls vs McCain in Ohio and Pennsylvania.  (She also is VERY competitive in Florida).  But nope, Obama can win with moveon.org, young voters, and the eggheads.  Working class whites?  Who needs em?  A bunch of ignorant gun toten hicks.  They are too stupid to understand the new society that Barack and Michelle have in store for us.  Ignore them in November.  You don't need them to win.  George McGovern said so.

[There Are Some Remedies Worse Than The Disease]

Anyone who actually believes Obama will lose Lackawanna in the general election is quite delusional.

[WalterMitty]

Anyone who actually believes Obama will lose Lackawanna in the general election is quite delusional.

he needs to win it by a good margin.

i will say this, i think he will lose beaver county in western pa.

[King]

Don't you even thinking about bumping this thread up, Franzl.