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Wiz from Wis in Mass
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OR PrimD: Survey USA: Obama increases lead in OR
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May 12, 2008, 10:55:55 pm »
New Poll:
Oregon President by Survey USA on 2008-05-11
Summary:
Obama:
54%
Clinton:
43%
Other:
1%
Undecided:
2%
Poll Source URL:
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Tender Branson
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Re: OR PrimD: Survey USA: Obama increases lead in OR
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May 12, 2008, 11:34:59 pm »
I´m a little bit concerned about the early voters (almost half of the sample), where they are tied. But as long as Obama maintains a 20% edge among election day voters it doesn´t really matter.
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Re: OR PrimD: Survey USA: Obama increases lead in OR
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May 12, 2008, 11:41:38 pm »
Quote from: Tender Branson on May 12, 2008, 11:34:59 pm
I´m a little bit concerned about the early voters (almost half of the sample), where they are tied. But as long as Obama maintains a 20% edge among election day voters it doesn´t really matter.
There are no election day voters in Oregon
Well, I guess there technically could be...but you know what I mean!
This number should probably concern Obama folks a little, especially considering his underperformance in he WA primary. We'll see.
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Re: OR PrimD: Survey USA: Obama increases lead in OR
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Quote from: Alcon on May 12, 2008, 11:41:38 pm
Quote from: Tender Branson on May 12, 2008, 11:34:59 pm
I´m a little bit concerned about the early voters (almost half of the sample), where they are tied. But as long as Obama maintains a 20% edge among election day voters it doesn´t really matter.
There are no election day voters in Oregon
Well, I guess there technically could be...but you know what I mean!
Ahh, yeah it´s Oregon ...
I´m still confident Obama wins by 5-10% ...
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Re: OR PrimD: Survey USA: Obama increases lead in OR
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May 12, 2008, 11:47:20 pm »
Quote from: Alcon on May 12, 2008, 11:41:38 pm
Quote from: Tender Branson on May 12, 2008, 11:34:59 pm
I´m a little bit concerned about the early voters (almost half of the sample), where they are tied. But as long as Obama maintains a 20% edge among election day voters it doesn´t really matter.
There are no election day voters in Oregon
Well, I guess there technically could be...but you know what I mean!
This number should probably concern Obama folks a little, especially considering his underperformance in he WA primary. We'll see.
I think there will be more interest in a primary that actually matters than one that didn't.
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Re: OR PrimD: Survey USA: Obama increases lead in OR
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May 12, 2008, 11:48:32 pm »
Quote from: Necromancer on May 12, 2008, 11:47:20 pm
Quote from: Alcon on May 12, 2008, 11:41:38 pm
Quote from: Tender Branson on May 12, 2008, 11:34:59 pm
I´m a little bit concerned about the early voters (almost half of the sample), where they are tied. But as long as Obama maintains a 20% edge among election day voters it doesn´t really matter.
There are no election day voters in Oregon
Well, I guess there technically could be...but you know what I mean!
This number should probably concern Obama folks a little, especially considering his underperformance in he WA primary. We'll see.
I think there will be more interest in a primary that actually matters than one that didn't.
The Oregon media has been weirdly disinterested in this election. I guess it depends on how complacent voters are getting. I wonder how blitzed he ad market is getting. Obama would be wise to put up his "send in your ballots now" ads soon.
I wasn't saying it's very meaningful, just that it would be better news if he were leading by 20 in the other subgroup.
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Re: OR PrimD: Survey USA: Obama increases lead in OR
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May 13, 2008, 10:19:30 am »
Check out the difference between the voters who have already voted and those who are likely to. One explanation could be young people and the other could be a bump from NC and IN. Also more than half the people have already voted.
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Re: OR PrimD: Survey USA: Obama increases lead in OR
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May 13, 2008, 10:50:18 am »
Quote from: sbane on May 13, 2008, 10:19:30 am
Check out the difference between the voters who have already voted and those who are likely to. One explanation could be young people and the other could be a bump from NC and IN. Also more than half the people have already voted.
I think you're mixing up the two columns.
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Re: OR PrimD: Survey USA: Obama increases lead in OR
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May 13, 2008, 03:09:42 pm »
Quote from: Alcon on May 13, 2008, 10:50:18 am
Quote from: sbane on May 13, 2008, 10:19:30 am
Check out the difference between the voters who have already voted and those who are likely to. One explanation could be young people and the other could be a bump from NC and IN. Also more than half the people have already voted.
I think you're mixing up the two columns.
Yeah my bad only 43% of people have voted. But that is so damn close, I really wonder if it is representative. But Obama cleans up among likely voters, I guess the ones who havent mailed theirs yet? This is a weird primary for sure.
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Re: OR PrimD: Survey USA: Obama increases lead in OR
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May 13, 2008, 03:41:30 pm »
Clinton is leading big among conservatives. Congrats to her on that front. We know they are a major force in OR's Democratic primaries.
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May 17, 2008, 08:28:42 am »
Quote from: Alcon on May 12, 2008, 11:41:38 pm
Quote from: Tender Branson on May 12, 2008, 11:34:59 pm
I´m a little bit concerned about the early voters (almost half of the sample), where they are tied. But as long as Obama maintains a 20% edge among election day voters it doesn´t really matter.
There are no election day voters in Oregon
Well, I guess there technically could be...but you know what I mean!
This number should probably concern Obama folks a little, especially considering his underperformance in he WA primary. We'll see.
You can deliver the ballots in person up until Tuesday evening, right?
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Re: OR PrimD: Survey USA: Obama increases lead in OR
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May 17, 2008, 08:33:44 am »
I actually think Clinton's position will have opposite effects on the electorates.
I think Clinton's supporters will become more firm in Kentucky to make a point, as opposed to her support in Oregon sliding.
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Re: OR PrimD: Survey USA: Obama increases lead in OR
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May 18, 2008, 08:18:37 pm »
Obama needs at least a 5 point lead, and I think he'll get it.
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May 19, 2008, 12:13:36 am »
Quote from: J. J. on May 18, 2008, 08:18:37 pm
Obama needs at least a 5 point lead, and I think he'll get it.
Wow, lowering the bar again.
Yes, I too think Obama will win by more than 5 points, but why does he "need" it? He's going to clinch the pledged delegate majority no matter what and there's barely anything left to vote. The superdelegates aren't going to swarm to Hillary in droves because she managed to hold Obama to a 4 point victory in Oregon.
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Quote from: Neither Bush or Hillary got over 15% in my precinct on May 19, 2008, 12:13:36 am
Quote from: J. J. on May 18, 2008, 08:18:37 pm
Obama needs at least a 5 point lead, and I think he'll get it.
Wow, lowering the bar again.
Yes, I too think Obama will win by more than 5 points, but why does he "need" it? He's going to clinch the pledged delegate majority no matter what and there's barely anything left to vote. The superdelegates aren't going to swarm to Hillary in droves because she managed to hold Obama to a 4 point victory in Oregon.
The super delegates won't move for a bare victory, especially after WV and if there is a blowup in KY.
If it is not a decisive win, the super delegates will not be decisive.
I am, however, happy to note the amount of bar lowering I've done for Obama.
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J. J.
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Re: OR PrimD: Survey USA: Obama increases lead in OR
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May 19, 2008, 02:04:56 pm »
Quote from: J. J. on May 19, 2008, 02:00:32 pm
Quote from: Neither Bush or Hillary got over 15% in my precinct on May 19, 2008, 12:13:36 am
Quote from: J. J. on May 18, 2008, 08:18:37 pm
Obama needs at least a 5 point lead, and I think he'll get it.
Wow, lowering the bar again.
Yes, I too think Obama will win by more than 5 points, but why does he "need" it? He's going to clinch the pledged delegate majority no matter what and there's barely anything left to vote. The superdelegates aren't going to swarm to Hillary in droves because she managed to hold Obama to a 4 point victory in Oregon.
The super delegates won't move for a bare victory, especially after WV and if there is a blowup in KY.
If it is not a decisive win, the super delegates will not be decisive.
I am, however, happy to note the amount of bar lowering I've done for Obama.
Obama will win a majority of pledged delegates on May 20. Many superdelegates have already pledged to support whoever wins the majority of pledged delegates, so he gets a good chunk, no matter what. After that and the remaining primaries he only needs about 30 or so more, which he'll certainly get before Hillary gets her hundreds that she needs.
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Re: OR PrimD: Survey USA: Obama increases lead in OR
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May 19, 2008, 02:42:27 pm »
With these numbers Obama probably wins every district in the state.
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