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« on: May 17, 2008, 01:25:51 pm »
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Utopia!
Wednesday, April 30, 2008
Continuing with my posts highlighting just how wonderful things will be here in the United States when the government finally does its job and takes over the healthcare sector of the economy, I’d like to bring your attention once again to the fabulous success story that is the Canadian health care system:

    Last year, the Canadian government issued a series of reports to address the outcry over long wait times for critical tests, procedures and surgeries. Over a two year period:
    • Wait times for knee replacements dropped from 440 to 307 days.
    • Wait times for hip replacements dropped from 351 to 257 days.
    • Wait times for cataract surgeries dropped from 311 to 183 days.
    • Wait times for MRIs dropped from 120 to 105 days.
    • Wait times for CT scans dropped from 81 to 62 days.
    • Wait times for bypass surgeries dropped from 49 to 48 days.


Sure, you might have to wait a couple of months for that lifesaving bypass surgery. But remember: it’s free!
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"The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed – and hence clamorous to be led to safety – by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary." – H.L. Mencken



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« Reply #1 on: May 17, 2008, 02:01:29 pm »

Beter to wait a few months than to have to spend decades worth of savings.
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« Reply #2 on: May 17, 2008, 02:21:12 pm »
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Better still to have the option of either course of action.
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« Reply #3 on: May 17, 2008, 03:13:48 pm »

Better still to have the option of either course of action.

Well I'm taking that as a given Smiley
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« Reply #4 on: May 17, 2008, 03:25:04 pm »
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Better still to have the option of either course of action.

Well I'm taking that as a given Smiley

Too bad Canadians can't do the same.
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« Reply #5 on: May 17, 2008, 03:49:40 pm »

Better still to have the option of either course of action.

Well I'm taking that as a given Smiley

Too bad Canadians can't do the same.

Don't about 30% of Canadians opt for private sector healthcare?
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« Reply #6 on: May 17, 2008, 03:55:05 pm »
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Bono will tell you "no" and will say that private healthcare is illegal in Canada. Someone else will then say that this is only true in a technical sense. There will then be a 50% chance of A Row developing.
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« Reply #7 on: May 17, 2008, 04:35:20 pm »
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Better still to have the option of either course of action.

Well I'm taking that as a given Smiley

Too bad Canadians can't do the same.

Don't about 30% of Canadians opt for private sector healthcare?

No, 30% of health expenses in Canada are private, which is simply because Medicare doesn't cover outpatient prescription drugs, non-physician services like physical therapy, optometry, dentistry and some procedures like laser eye surgery.  Accepting private payments is illegal, although Canadians can just cross the border to circumvent waiting times, and growing numbers are doing so. In June 2005, the Supreme Court of Canada ruled in Chaoulli v. Quebec  that Quebec's prohibition against private health insurance for medically necessary services laws violated the Quebec Charter of Human Rights and Freedoms, however, this hasn't translated into much real reform so far.
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« Reply #8 on: May 17, 2008, 05:52:38 pm »
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I have some wealthy relatives in Toronto, and I think they use the gov. provided health care, but they use their family friends.
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« Reply #9 on: May 17, 2008, 08:09:35 pm »
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What, Canada's system isn't perfect?  Taking away people's right to chose is a bad thing?  Who knew?
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