Forgotten History: War with Britain?

[JSojourner]

I love dropping in little blurbs about American and World history that have long been forgotten (or were never known) by the general public.

This one actually makes me shudder, when I consider how beloved the British are over here today.  But this was in my Dad's and Mom's lifetime!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Plan_Red

[12th Doctor]

It's amazing how good the Canadians have always been at maintaining their righteous indignation towards America, when they had their own plan.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defence_Scheme_No._1

[JSojourner]

It's amazing how good the Canadians have always been at maintaining their righteous indignation towards America, when they had their own plan.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defence_Scheme_No._1

They did, indeed.

I just find the whole concept either way to be shocking.  But as the article says, there were a number of near wars with the Empire throughout the 19th century.  And we tend to forget how incredibly formidable the British military, navy especially, was.

[afleitch]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corfu_incident

This one wasn't a war, but it was a major incident of it's day and one of the first tests of the League of Nartions. While conflict was averted, it came at the expense of the Leagues credibility.

[12th Doctor]

It's amazing how good the Canadians have always been at maintaining their righteous indignation towards America, when they had their own plan.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defence_Scheme_No._1

They did, indeed.

I just find the whole concept either way to be shocking.  But as the article says, there were a number of near wars with the Empire throughout the 19th century.  And we tend to forget how incredibly formidable the British military, navy especially, was.

Indeed... in fact the United States and Britain were very close to war in the 1890's, and only narrowly averted it.

"Surrender pronto, or we'll level Toronto."

[JSojourner]

Andrew says of "The Corfu Incident" >>>>> The Italian government, lead by Benito Mussolini, sent an ultimatum to the Greek government on August 29, 1923, demanding the payment of 50 million lire in reparations <<<<<

So, what...like 18 bucks?

[JSojourner]

It's amazing how good the Canadians have always been at maintaining their righteous indignation towards America, when they had their own plan.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defence_Scheme_No._1

They did, indeed.

I just find the whole concept either way to be shocking.  But as the article says, there were a number of near wars with the Empire throughout the 19th century.  And we tend to forget how incredibly formidable the British military, navy especially, was.

Indeed... in fact the United States and Britain were very close to war in the 1890's, and only narrowly averted it.

"Surrender pronto, or we'll level Toronto."

Soulty, do you have more information about the conflict?  I know there was a big to-do over borders in the 1840's.  What was the 1890's brouhaha about?  Guyana?

[12th Doctor]

It's amazing how good the Canadians have always been at maintaining their righteous indignation towards America, when they had their own plan.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defence_Scheme_No._1

They did, indeed.

I just find the whole concept either way to be shocking.  But as the article says, there were a number of near wars with the Empire throughout the 19th century.  And we tend to forget how incredibly formidable the British military, navy especially, was.

Indeed... in fact the United States and Britain were very close to war in the 1890's, and only narrowly averted it.

"Surrender pronto, or we'll level Toronto."

Soulty, do you have more information about the conflict?  I know there was a big to-do over borders in the 1840's.  What was the 1890's brouhaha about?  Guyana?

One of the "What If" books outlines the possibilities for a conflict, but its been a long time since I read it, so I don't remember the details.  I tried to dig it up, but it must be in the "What If: America" one that I don't have on me at the time.

[ilikeverin]

It's amazing how good the Canadians have always been at maintaining their righteous indignation towards America, when they had their own plan.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defence_Scheme_No._1

They did, indeed.

I just find the whole concept either way to be shocking.  But as the article says, there were a number of near wars with the Empire throughout the 19th century.  And we tend to forget how incredibly formidable the British military, navy especially, was.

Indeed... in fact the United States and Britain were very close to war in the 1890's, and only narrowly averted it.

"Surrender pronto, or we'll level Toronto."

Soulty, do you have more information about the conflict?  I know there was a big to-do over borders in the 1840's.  What was the 1890's brouhaha about?  Guyana?

One of the "What If" books outlines the possibilities for a conflict, but its been a long time since I read it, so I don't remember the details.  I tried to dig it up, but it must be in the "What If: America" one that I don't have on me at the time.

I believe it was a border dispute between Venezuela and Guyana.

[J. J.]

There were actually an number of plans, including domestic unrest plans:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._Color-coded_War_Plans

[dead0man]

Cadets still do this kind of thing at the various Academies.

[Хahar 🤔]

Cadets still do this kind of thing at the various Academies.

I'd go to West Point for this if there wasn't all that other stuff that you need to do there.

[dead0man]

Well sure and I'd mary Rosie O'Donnel for the money if it wan't for all that other stuff that you need to do there.

[12th Doctor]

Sigh... there are times I wish I had done the West Point thing.

[dead0man]

aye.  I really wanted to go to the Air Force Academy, but I was much to lazy.

[12th Doctor]

aye.  I really wanted to go to the Air Force Academy, but I was much to lazy.

I have too many health problems.  Small health problems, but when you have a bunch, they add up.

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

Andrew says of "The Corfu Incident" >>>>> The Italian government, lead by Benito Mussolini, sent an ultimatum to the Greek government on August 29, 1923, demanding the payment of 50 million lire in reparations <<<<<

So, what...like 18 bucks?

No about 2 million dollars then or the equivalent of about 100 million dollars today.

[12th Doctor]

Andrew says of "The Corfu Incident" >>>>> The Italian government, lead by Benito Mussolini, sent an ultimatum to the Greek government on August 29, 1923, demanding the payment of 50 million lire in reparations <<<<<

So, what...like 18 bucks?

No about 2 million dollars then or the equivalent of about 100 million dollars today.

Hmmmm... I thought I already posted that.  It isn't on here, but I typed it up.

Anyway, yeah, this was all prior to the hyper-inflation that would turn the Lira into a joke.

As my grandpa always says, Italy and Turkey are the only places he has ever been to where he felt sorry for a guy who said he "was down to his last million."