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« on: June 01, 2008, 06:33:25 PM »

1900s: Roosevelt
1910s: Wilhelm II
1920s: Poincaré
1930s: Roosevelt
1940s: Hitler
1950s: Eisenhower
1960s: Khrushchev
1970s: Mao
1980s: Gorbachev
1990s: Clinton
2000s: Bush
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Xahar
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« Reply #1 on: June 01, 2008, 09:50:15 PM »

1900's - TR
1910's - Wilhelm II
1920's - Henry Ford
1930's - Adolf Hitler
1940's - Winston Churchill
1950's - Ike Eisenhower
1960's - Lyndon Johnson
1970's - tie; Richard Nixon & Ruhollah Khomeini
1980's - tie; John Paul II & Ronald Reagan (Gorbachev was a reaction to them, not a tone setter)
1990's - tie; Saddam Hussein, Newt Gingrich, Tony Blair, Slobodan Milošević
2000's - Osama Bin Laden (though if you ask me again in a few years, I might change my mind


Hilariously contradictory. Not that that's a bad thing.
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Xahar
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« Reply #2 on: June 01, 2008, 10:24:56 PM »

1900's - TR
1910's - Wilhelm II
1920's - Henry Ford
1930's - Adolf Hitler
1940's - Winston Churchill
1950's - Ike Eisenhower
1960's - Lyndon Johnson
1970's - tie; Richard Nixon & Ruhollah Khomeini
1980's - tie; John Paul II & Ronald Reagan (Gorbachev was a reaction to them, not a tone setter)
1990's - tie; Saddam Hussein, Newt Gingrich, Tony Blair, Slobodan Milošević
2000's - Osama Bin Laden (though if you ask me again in a few years, I might change my mind


Hilariously contradictory. Not that that's a bad thing.

Not really, Churchill defined the problem of Nazism long before others even recognized it, and he did the same thing with communism.

Gorby wasn't a leader in any true sense of the word.  He was picked because the people were starting to demand perestroika, he merely granted them what they wanted.  When the Soviet Union was collapsing, he did everything he could to try to hold it together, and failed.  He wasn't opposed to communism.  He did what he did because he hoped that, by loosening the restrictions of the old order, he could preserve it, because people would naturally see what was "good" about communism and disassociate it from the "bad".  He wasn't prepared to accept the notion that communism was inherently bad, which was the conclusion that most Russian people had already reached.  He only gets credit for anything because he is falsely perceived as a "peaceful" figure, as opposed to Reagan, who was a "terrible warmonger".

But Chirchill would never have been anyone important (and I mean on a world scale) without Chamberlain and Hitler. I agree that a change was inevitable after Brezhnev and Andropov and Chernenko (the whole process has reminded me of a papal conclave), but Gorbachev was an important figure in his own right. Imagine if Volodymyr Schcherbytsky had been elevated. Things would have turned out very differently.

And I bear too great an affinity for Gorbachevism for you to badmouth his work. Wink
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Xahar
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« Reply #3 on: June 01, 2008, 11:52:13 PM »

1900's: Theodore Roosevelt
1910's: Woodrow Wilson/Kaiser Wilhelm II (tie)
1920's: Eh... the 20s were boring. Coolidge, I suppose, those he's really just representative of them.
1930's: Franklin D. Roosevelt/Adolf Hitler (tie)
1940's: Winston Churchill
1950's: Nikita Khrushchev
1960's: Martin Luther King Jr.
1970's: Richard Nixon
1980's: Ronald Reagan/Mikhail Gorbachev (tie)
1990's: This is difficult... the computer or the internet or something, if that's allowed
2000's: George W. Bush

7 Presidents. Interesting.

Shows a lot about you: namely, Amerocentrism.

I note that Poincaré is the only one of my choices that has not been also used by someone else.
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Xahar
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Posts: 41,731
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Political Matrix
E: -6.77, S: 0.61

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« Reply #4 on: June 02, 2008, 12:18:17 AM »

1900's: Theodore Roosevelt
1910's: Woodrow Wilson/Kaiser Wilhelm II (tie)
1920's: Eh... the 20s were boring. Coolidge, I suppose, those he's really just representative of them.
1930's: Franklin D. Roosevelt/Adolf Hitler (tie)
1940's: Winston Churchill
1950's: Nikita Khrushchev
1960's: Martin Luther King Jr.
1970's: Richard Nixon
1980's: Ronald Reagan/Mikhail Gorbachev (tie)
1990's: This is difficult... the computer or the internet or something, if that's allowed
2000's: George W. Bush

7 Presidents. Interesting.

Shows a lot about you: namely, Amerocentrism.

I note that Poincaré is the only one of my choices that has not been also used by someone else.

True...

No one's stolen my Gavrilo Princip one yet.

I was considering him, but I thought, if not him, then someone else.
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Xahar
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Posts: 41,731
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Political Matrix
E: -6.77, S: 0.61

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« Reply #5 on: June 02, 2008, 12:30:49 AM »

1900's: Theodore Roosevelt
1910's: Woodrow Wilson/Kaiser Wilhelm II (tie)
1920's: Eh... the 20s were boring. Coolidge, I suppose, those he's really just representative of them.
1930's: Franklin D. Roosevelt/Adolf Hitler (tie)
1940's: Winston Churchill
1950's: Nikita Khrushchev
1960's: Martin Luther King Jr.
1970's: Richard Nixon
1980's: Ronald Reagan/Mikhail Gorbachev (tie)
1990's: This is difficult... the computer or the internet or something, if that's allowed
2000's: George W. Bush

7 Presidents. Interesting.

Shows a lot about you: namely, Amerocentrism.
For a few of the choices, sure. Theodore Roosevelt is the most obvious, but there isn't really anyone in the aughts that impacted the entire world, and Roosevelt was in some ways instrumental in beginning what would be the "American century." Woodrow Wilson, FDR, Reagan, and Bush all undoubtedly had long term effects on the international political landscape.

But Coolidge? Over Poincaré or Kellogg or Briand or Stresemann or (Austen) Chamberlain?
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Хahar 🤔
Xahar
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Posts: 41,731
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Political Matrix
E: -6.77, S: 0.61

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« Reply #6 on: June 02, 2008, 05:28:18 PM »

1900s: Roosevelt
1910s: Wilhelm II
1920s: Poincaré
1930s: Roosevelt
1940s: Hitler
1950s: Eisenhower
1960s: Khrushchev
1970s: Mao
1980s: Gorbachev
1990s: Clinton
2000s: Bush

5 Americans, 2 Germans, 1 Frenchman, 2 Russians, and 1 Chinaman.

Strange.
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Хahar 🤔
Xahar
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Posts: 41,731
Bangladesh


Political Matrix
E: -6.77, S: 0.61

WWW
« Reply #7 on: June 19, 2008, 01:28:19 PM »

With 2000s remaining, I vote for the guys who started YouTube (idk their names)

No nominations for that, so too bad.
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