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« on: June 02, 2008, 12:44:59 pm »
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New Poll: South Dakota President by ARG on 2008-06-01

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Clinton:
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Obama:
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Other:
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Undecided:
6%

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Hillary Clinton leads Barack Obama 56% to 39% among men (46% of likely Democratic primary voters). Among women, Clinton leads 63% to 29%.

Clinton leads 57% to 38% among voters age 18 to 49 (46% of likely Democratic primary voters) and Clinton leads 63% to 30% among voters age 50 and older.

11% of likely Democratic primary voters say they would never vote for Hillary Clinton in the primary and 27% of likely Democratic primary voters say they would never vote for Barack Obama in the primary.
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« Reply #1 on: June 02, 2008, 12:46:47 pm »
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Okkkkaayyy. This is interesting ... Tongue
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« Reply #2 on: June 02, 2008, 12:47:54 pm »
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Umm...lol?
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« Reply #3 on: June 02, 2008, 12:48:26 pm »
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Ah, good ol' ARG.  How we missed ya.
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« Reply #4 on: June 02, 2008, 12:49:13 pm »
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this actually made my stomach churn.  If true, this is really bad news for Obama.

I fear I may have been correct when I made the prediction that Wright has made Obama unelectable.
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« Reply #5 on: June 02, 2008, 12:49:47 pm »
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this actually made my stomach churn.  If true, this is really bad news for Obama.

I fear I may have been correct when I made the prediction that Wright has made Obama unelectable.

You're basing that on one ARG poll from South Dakota?
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« Reply #6 on: June 02, 2008, 12:49:59 pm »
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If Obama actually manages to win by 10 points tomorrow, this poll should be classified "worst ever" ...
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« Reply #7 on: June 02, 2008, 12:52:04 pm »
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Quote from: Tender Branson on June 02, 2008, 12:44:59 pm
Summary:
Clinton:
60%
Obama:
34%
Other:
0%
Undecided:
6%

Based on ARG's track record, the expected actual result would be:

Other 68%
Undecided 40%
Obama 0.0005%
Clinton -18%
Rounding error 10%
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« Reply #8 on: June 02, 2008, 12:52:49 pm »
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What.  The.  Hell.
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« Reply #9 on: June 02, 2008, 12:53:35 pm »
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On to Denver!
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« Reply #10 on: June 02, 2008, 12:53:58 pm »
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Quote from: President Keystone Phil on June 02, 2008, 12:53:35 pm
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sarcasm?
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« Reply #11 on: June 02, 2008, 12:56:04 pm »
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HAHA funny, why do the even waste their money on polling? ARG is a joke.
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« Reply #12 on: June 02, 2008, 12:57:27 pm »
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Quote from: Franzl on June 02, 2008, 12:53:58 pm
Quote from: President Keystone Phil on June 02, 2008, 12:53:35 pm
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sarcasm?

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Yes.

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« Reply #13 on: June 02, 2008, 12:57:52 pm »
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Quote from: Josh22 on June 02, 2008, 12:56:04 pm
HAHA funny, why do the even waste their money on polling? ARG is a joke.

It doesn't actually cost them that much.  It's not like it's that expensive to program a random number generator.
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« Reply #14 on: June 02, 2008, 12:58:13 pm »
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To take ARG too seriously, maybe this is why the Clinton campaign has been trumpeting South Dakota "pulling closer."  I mean, ARG sucks, but does it suck by >26 points?
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« Reply #15 on: June 02, 2008, 01:04:18 pm »
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Perhaps, SD just wants to be awkward. If it votes Clinton, it will stand out on the map like a bleeding sore thumb

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« Reply #16 on: June 02, 2008, 01:05:57 pm »
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Quote from: elcorazon on June 02, 2008, 12:49:13 pm

I fear I may have been correct when I made the prediction that Wright has made Obama unelectable.

No more than Bush should render McCain unelectable. The US ain't heading in the wrong direction because of insignificants like Wright

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« Reply #17 on: June 02, 2008, 01:07:51 pm »
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South Dakota is a closed primary.

Every single major party figure in South Dakota has endorsed Obama (Daschle, Johnson, Herseth-Sandlin, all but 1 DNC member).

In February, the North Dakota caucuses picked Obama 61-37.

Maybe the Dakotas are just that different, maybe caucuses do have that large of a pro-Obama bias...

...or ARG just sucks.


Wouldn't it be amusing, though, if Clinton won South Dakota but didn't even show up to celebrate the victory?
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« Reply #18 on: June 02, 2008, 01:11:01 pm »
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I donīt think that either Obama or Clinton will win comfortably tomorrow. I think they will be within 5 percent. For example, Obama did quite well in the ID caucuses, but "just" won 58% in the "beauty" primary.
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« Reply #19 on: June 02, 2008, 01:11:46 pm »
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A good way for ARG to end the primary season.
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« Reply #20 on: June 02, 2008, 01:14:17 pm »
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I donīt think that either Obama or Clinton will win comfortably tomorrow. I think they will be within 5 percent. For example, Obama did quite well in the ID caucuses, but "just" won 58% in the "beauty" primary.

Yes, you're quite right. Caucuses obviously inflate the margin of victory. But these "beauty contests" have deflated turnout considerably, haven't they? I think that should be relevant.
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« Reply #21 on: June 02, 2008, 01:22:04 pm »
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Quote from: Aizen on June 02, 2008, 01:11:46 pm
A good way for ARG to end the primary season.

Indeed.  This poll is making me nostalgic for polls like these:

http://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=51096.0

from before we all realized just how much of a sham ARG was.  ARG's polling of the 2008 primaries was truly in a class of its own.  Really, just thinking back on it all.....my eyes are getting misty.
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« Reply #22 on: June 02, 2008, 01:22:52 pm »
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Maybe they only conducted their poll on a Sioux reservation or something. The Sioux and Crow hate each other, and Obama is now an honorary Crow.
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« Reply #23 on: June 02, 2008, 01:35:11 pm »
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Is this seriously the only poll we have from SD?
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« Reply #24 on: June 02, 2008, 01:38:21 pm »
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Perhaps, SD just wants to be awkward different. If it votes Clinton, it will stand out on the map like a bleeding sore thumb botched boob job Tongue

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