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« Reply #3150 on: February 13, 2012, 12:03:34 AM »

Greg Nickels is running for SoS? What!?

I really need to pay better attention.
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« Reply #3151 on: February 13, 2012, 03:25:09 PM »

John Milem, a Vancouver man who was basically the redistricting committee's vigilante roadie, was thanked by the commissioners after the process finished and is now petitioning for the Supreme Court to strike it down.
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« Reply #3152 on: February 13, 2012, 04:55:13 PM »

The Gay has been signed.

http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/02/13/10398748-wash-governor-signs-gay-marriage-bill-into-law
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« Reply #3153 on: February 13, 2012, 05:33:55 PM »


Three cheers for the great state of Washington!  This is a landmark moment in our state history.
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« Reply #3154 on: February 13, 2012, 07:06:01 PM »

Congrats to Washington!!!
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« Reply #3155 on: February 13, 2012, 07:22:04 PM »

Cheesy
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« Reply #3156 on: February 13, 2012, 07:27:10 PM »

Also noteworthy is that the New Jersey Senate passed gay marriage today. It doesn't have enough votes to override a possible Christie veto but it does have enough votes to be sent to referendum.
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« Reply #3157 on: February 13, 2012, 07:34:25 PM »

Yay us(Washington)!!!!!

And New Jersey too!
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« Reply #3158 on: February 13, 2012, 07:42:50 PM »

I'm sure there will be a referendum, so don't get too excited just yet.
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« Reply #3159 on: February 13, 2012, 08:13:37 PM »

Civil liberties marches onward.
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« Reply #3160 on: February 13, 2012, 08:14:11 PM »

Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
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« Reply #3161 on: February 13, 2012, 08:16:11 PM »

John Milem, a Vancouver man who was basically the redistricting committee's vigilante roadie, was thanked by the commissioners after the process finished and is now petitioning for the Supreme Court to strike it down.

Vancouver, WA?
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« Reply #3162 on: February 13, 2012, 08:33:58 PM »

John Milem, a Vancouver man who was basically the redistricting committee's vigilante roadie, was thanked by the commissioners after the process finished and is now petitioning for the Supreme Court to strike it down.

Vancouver, WA?

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« Reply #3163 on: February 13, 2012, 11:14:54 PM »
« Edited: February 13, 2012, 11:28:41 PM by bgwah »

John Milem, a Vancouver man who was basically the redistricting committee's vigilante roadie, was thanked by the commissioners after the process finished and is now petitioning for the Supreme Court to strike it down.

Vancouver, WA?

Yep

Glad it's being challenged, though I'm not a fan of his proposed maps. The Highway 20 connection bothers me the most. Sure, it's technically a road connection, but it's closed for half the year! You can't even travel on that road during election season. It should not be used as a connection.

Furthermore, he may only have four counties split --- but he splits King County seven ways to do this, despite the fact that King County only has about 1.9 million people.

He's right about the commission ignoring the rules (they just used "community of interest" BS when necessary to justify their gerrymanders), but focusing on the goals as much as he did results in an equally silly map, IMO.
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« Reply #3164 on: February 13, 2012, 11:36:24 PM »

Oh wow, cross cascades district is really designed to protect the incumbent Republican.
http://www.spokanegop.com/component/content/article/353-washington-state-congressional-district-map-as-adopted-by-the-redistricting-commission-on-january-1st-2012
I think this is the right map? I am not sure how taking away king county instead of pierce county can be justified for a cross cascade county except for gerrymandering/incumbent protection. If it's an I-90 district, shouldn't it actually have areas near I-90 instead of random collection of rural areas? 4 Safe Republican seats isn't cool.
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« Reply #3165 on: February 13, 2012, 11:56:23 PM »

That's the right map. And it's definitely an incumbent protection map, which was to be expected, though I was hoping it wouldn't be that bad.

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« Reply #3166 on: February 14, 2012, 01:30:52 AM »

That's the right map. And it's definitely an incumbent protection map, which was to be expected, though I was hoping it wouldn't be that bad.


Do democratic incumbents really need protection?
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« Reply #3167 on: February 14, 2012, 01:35:37 AM »

That's the right map. And it's definitely an incumbent protection map, which was to be expected, though I was hoping it wouldn't be that bad.


Do democratic incumbents really need protection?

Rick Larsen did.

Party elder Denny Heck was also treated as a de facto incumbent.
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« Reply #3168 on: February 14, 2012, 02:55:07 AM »

That's the right map. And it's definitely an incumbent protection map, which was to be expected, though I was hoping it wouldn't be that bad.


Do democratic incumbents really need protection?

Rick Larsen did.

Party elder Denny Heck was also treated as a de facto incumbent.
Isn't 3rd turning more Republican though?
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« Reply #3169 on: February 14, 2012, 03:02:27 AM »

Yes, but Heck is getting the new 10th district instead.
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« Reply #3170 on: February 14, 2012, 06:45:49 AM »

Hah, the glitterbomber from the Santorum rally was the burnout from my chemistry class.  He's apparently now an Occupy camper.  Ahh, predictable.

Bless his soul.
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« Reply #3171 on: February 14, 2012, 05:31:02 PM »

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/

Washington is currently running second behind Wisconsin for the next PPP poll.  Vote!
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« Reply #3172 on: February 14, 2012, 05:48:30 PM »

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/

Washington is currently running second behind Wisconsin for the next PPP poll.  Vote!

Do they poll the top two when there are only four choices?
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« Reply #3173 on: February 14, 2012, 06:25:56 PM »

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/politicsnorthwest/2017504326_another_poll_shows_mckenna_lea.html

Elway, 405 RV, shows McKenna 45%, Inslee 36%:

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« Reply #3174 on: February 15, 2012, 05:07:37 PM »
« Edited: February 15, 2012, 05:16:53 PM by Alcon »

PPP is going to be polling us this weekend.  Any suggestions on questions?  (Beyond the obvious -- marriage equality, pot, Cantwell/Bryant, Cantwell/Baumgartner, Gov) -- I'll pass them onto PPP.
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