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« Reply #3250 on: April 02, 2012, 11:40:45 AM »

Grove Insights, a Democratic pollster from Portland polling for SEIU, says 38%-34% Inslee with 27% undecided.  Crap poll, of course, but not much else is going on lately.
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« Reply #3251 on: April 02, 2012, 01:05:00 PM »

I've just sort of concluded McKenna will win and stopped worrying about it.
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« Reply #3252 on: April 02, 2012, 06:38:02 PM »

I've just sort of concluded McKenna will win and stopped worrying about it.

I've decided that its going to be close to really call until at least late september, so I just default to a slight McKenna win.
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« Reply #3253 on: April 02, 2012, 07:05:16 PM »

I've just sort of concluded McKenna will win and stopped worrying about it.

You've given up already?  There's still seven months...
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« Reply #3254 on: April 03, 2012, 12:51:57 PM »

I've just sort of concluded McKenna will win and stopped worrying about it.

You've given up already?  There's still seven months...

Inslee has been running a lousy campaign. But I guess there's still some hope.
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« Reply #3255 on: April 03, 2012, 05:08:23 PM »

I've just sort of concluded McKenna will win and stopped worrying about it.

You've given up already?  There's still seven months...

Inslee has been running a lousy campaign. But I guess there's still some hope.

Agreed, I have seen almost nothing from the Inslee campaign...
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« Reply #3256 on: April 04, 2012, 12:40:25 AM »

Then again, Gregoire somehow managed to win. But McKenna is a better candidate than Rossi...
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« Reply #3257 on: April 04, 2012, 02:09:43 AM »
« Edited: April 04, 2012, 02:18:11 AM by Ogre Mage »

I agree that Inslee is running a weak campaign.  Given how long he has been prepping for this race I expected better.  His so-so effort would probably be good enough against a mediocre opponent -- but not against a top-tier candidate like McKenna.  I think McKenna comes across as the sharper, more dominant personality.  Inslee kinda seems like a bump on a log right now.

McKenna has wisely been campaigning in King County and it seems that Inslee has not done enough to introduce himself to the base there based on some polls I have seen.  He's not well known in the area (at least Metro Seattle) and cannot take it for granted just because he has a "D" next to his name.

Inslee's gotta turn out the base if he is going to win.  One plus is that Obama will be at the top of the ticket instead of the lackluster John Kerry that Gregoire had in 2004.  But I'm not sure how much impact the Presidential race will have on a downballot governor's race.
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« Reply #3258 on: April 04, 2012, 02:46:36 AM »

Well, I was hoping to see more enthusiasm for victory here since Wisconsin is a rather obvious fool's gold race.
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« Reply #3259 on: April 04, 2012, 02:57:50 AM »

Hopefully it's early enough that the Inslee campaign will realize they need to change their strategy.

I still sort of think we'll have McKenna win this year, and then have Dow Constantine beat him in 2016.
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« Reply #3260 on: April 05, 2012, 12:46:36 AM »

So more continuation of death thousand austerities instead of sensible non-regressive income taxes? Eww...
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« Reply #3261 on: April 05, 2012, 03:15:55 AM »

So more continuation of death thousand austerities instead of sensible non-regressive income taxes? Eww...

Ha, I think you're expecting a bit much. Still, I like Inslee and would prefer him to, say, Governor Malloy the Malleable.
And Im eyeing the Pacific Coast if I choose to move.
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« Reply #3262 on: April 05, 2012, 03:29:56 AM »
« Edited: April 05, 2012, 03:32:27 AM by seatown »

So more continuation of death thousand austerities instead of sensible non-regressive income taxes? Eww...

Ha, I think you're expecting a bit much. Still, I like Inslee and would prefer him to, say, Governor Malloy the Malleable.
And Im eyeing the Pacific Coast if I choose to move.
I don't really expect that much, I'm pretty sure we will see austerity for the rest of our lives, soon on the national level. But Scott Walker is coming to Washington.
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« Reply #3263 on: April 05, 2012, 05:29:49 PM »

So if healthcare gets overturned by the Supreme Court how big of a hit will McKenna take?


Nothing like backing a huge lawsuit against ObamaCare to remind liberals about your true stances!
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« Reply #3264 on: April 05, 2012, 09:48:08 PM »

So if healthcare gets overturned by the Supreme Court how big of a hit will McKenna take?


Nothing like backing a huge lawsuit against ObamaCare to remind liberals about your true stances!


Wouldn't it getting overturned favor McKenna?
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« Reply #3265 on: April 05, 2012, 10:01:26 PM »

So if healthcare gets overturned by the Supreme Court how big of a hit will McKenna take?


Nothing like backing a huge lawsuit against ObamaCare to remind liberals about your true stances!


Wouldn't it getting overturned favor McKenna?

Well actually, I could see how the whole thing being struck down could hurt him. I don't think he'd really take a hit if the Supreme Court struck down just the mandate though (depending on what else they decide goes down with it)
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« Reply #3266 on: April 05, 2012, 11:00:50 PM »

The problem isn't liberals. The problem is suburban moderates.
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« Reply #3267 on: April 05, 2012, 11:04:10 PM »

I agree.  I don't think the healthcare bill is nearly popular enough for it to be a net-positive for any Democrat if it's struck down.
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« Reply #3268 on: April 06, 2012, 12:44:29 AM »

If the health care bill went down, it could help insofar as the Democratic base, which seems rather asleep/unaware with regards to Inslee, might be galvanized to turn out against McKenna.  But in terms of swinging moderate/independent voters I am very skeptical.
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« Reply #3269 on: April 06, 2012, 01:13:44 AM »

http://www.komonews.com/news/local/Senator-Joseph-Zarelli-on-disability-seeks-cuts-to-Washington-benefits-146357805.html

lol.
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« Reply #3270 on: April 06, 2012, 08:41:47 PM »


My sentiments exactly!

Of course, it's totally not a biased article Wink.
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« Reply #3271 on: April 08, 2012, 12:04:58 AM »

What's McKenna's politics like?
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« Reply #3272 on: April 08, 2012, 01:51:03 AM »


Socially ambivalent (pro-choice leans, pro-civil unions, doesn't really wanna talk about any of it); economically conservative-reformist type.

Fiscal conservative technocrat reformer type, basically.
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« Reply #3273 on: April 08, 2012, 02:14:58 AM »


Socially ambivalent (pro-choice leans, pro-civil unions, doesn't really wanna talk about any of it); economically conservative-reformist type.

Fiscal conservative technocrat reformer type, basically.

Maybe that's how he tries to appear. He's a right-winger of the Kemper Freeman variety.
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« Reply #3274 on: April 08, 2012, 01:41:33 PM »

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2017936337_apwamajorityminoritydistricts1stldwritethru.html

So you get to keep Adam Smith, and can't even find candidates for the 15th LD, aside from a single college kid. Anyone with a brain knew exactly what was going to happen. Shame on the pathetic Democrats who allowed this Republican gerrymander to go through instead of being brave enough to the folks at "OneAmerica" that they were being stupid idiots. We have to suffer with this inexcusably terrible map for a whole decade now.
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