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« Reply #3525 on: July 27, 2012, 01:43:50 PM »

New SurveyUSA in WA-01

Koster: 38%
DelBene: 17%
Burner: 13%
Ruderman: 6%
Hobbs: 5%
Rauniyar: 2%
Ishmael: 2%

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Obama leads Romney 50-40; McKenna leads Inslee 46-44
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« Reply #3526 on: July 27, 2012, 03:22:57 PM »

Welome to Washington, DFB! Cheesy
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« Reply #3527 on: July 27, 2012, 03:27:21 PM »

I think more progressive groups will start spending to help Burner.
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« Reply #3528 on: July 27, 2012, 03:40:32 PM »

+2 McKenna in the 1st CD... I think Inslee needs to do a little better there if he's going to win statewide. I'll be interested to see the primary results in the old 1st CD. Kitsap and Snohomish counties are going to be deciding this election, IMO.
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« Reply #3529 on: July 27, 2012, 03:42:06 PM »

I think more progressive groups will start spending to help Burner.

They better start soon. 25% of voters have already cast ballots.
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« Reply #3530 on: July 27, 2012, 03:53:48 PM »

It should be interesting to see how the Socialist Alternative candidate Sawant does in the race for the 43rd. I probably wouldn't vote for her because her positions are ludicrous (advocated nationalizing Boeing wtf) even though she's an econ professor.
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« Reply #3531 on: July 27, 2012, 08:43:19 PM »

It should be interesting to see how the Socialist Alternative candidate Sawant does in the race for the 43rd. I probably wouldn't vote for her because her positions are ludicrous (advocated nationalizing Boeing wtf) even though she's an econ professor.

I don't know... The 43rd had a D vs G race in 2002, where the Green got 21% of the vote. But a significant portion of that was probably Republicans voting for the non-Democrat. In fact, in the 7th CD race in 2010, Broadmoor (the most Republican precinct in Seattle) voted for the independent over McDermott. I think they might be less likely to do that when the non-Democrat is a Socialist. Cracking 10% is definitely doable for Sawant, I think.
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« Reply #3532 on: July 27, 2012, 08:46:18 PM »

Isn't she a write-in?  That's going to make it hard.
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« Reply #3533 on: July 27, 2012, 08:47:30 PM »

Isn't she a write-in?  That's going to make it hard.

No. She challenged Pedersen. The Stranger endorsed Pedersen and endorsed Sawant as a write-in against Chopp instead.
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« Reply #3534 on: July 28, 2012, 07:35:43 PM »

So no talk about the $2.5 million money bomb lodged by Bezos?
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« Reply #3535 on: July 28, 2012, 11:58:17 PM »

So no talk about the $2.5 million money bomb lodged by Bezos?

I saw it, it's continuing to look like 2012 will be a great year for marriage equality!
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« Reply #3536 on: July 29, 2012, 02:45:23 AM »

So no talk about the $2.5 million money bomb lodged by Bezos?

I also noticed that both Bill Gates and Steve Ballmer gave $100,000.  It's notable that these powerful corporate heads have taken our side on this issue.
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« Reply #3537 on: July 29, 2012, 02:21:31 PM »

Another interesting way to look at The Stranger's strength is is the 2008 Secretary of State race. They endorsed Reed in the primary, but changed their minds and endorsed Osgood in the general. If you compared Reed's primary performance to his general performance, King has by far the biggest drop. While some of this is likely general-only voters voting all D, the 4.7% drop is much bigger than it is in other Democratic counties (1.5% in San Juan, 1.6% in Thurston, 1.1% in Whatcom). Reed's numbers increased in most counties (including Jefferson), but the big drop in King brought his statewide number down 1.07%. How much of that is attributable to The Stranger, I don't know, but a look at the precinct results would probably tell us.
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« Reply #3538 on: July 29, 2012, 02:34:06 PM »

Here are the 2008 SoS results from the 43rd LD:

Primary
48.45% Osborn (D)
46.91% Reed (R)
2.85% Strickland (C)
1.60% Greene (PoC)
0.19% Write-in

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66.17% Osborn (D)
33.71% Reed (R)
0.12% Write-in
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« Reply #3539 on: July 29, 2012, 02:43:55 PM »

It's also fair to say The Stranger was the reason McGinn got out of the primary and won the general.
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« Reply #3540 on: August 01, 2012, 03:06:11 PM »

There's a good chance that DelBene is more left-wing than she appears: she graduated from Reed College in the days when its unofficial motto ("communism, atheism and free love") was far closer to the truth than it is today and she makes no real mention of a religious affiliation on her page. Her profile is one of an inoffensive moderate but her issue positions are that of a standard progressive.

Nominate her, please. Ruderman is also a good choice but the anti-Burners need to unite.
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« Reply #3541 on: August 01, 2012, 08:51:42 PM »

There's a good chance that DelBene is more left-wing than she appears: she graduated from Reed College in the days when its unofficial motto ("communism, atheism and free love") was far closer to the truth than it is today and she makes no real mention of a religious affiliation on her page. Her profile is one of an inoffensive moderate but her issue positions are that of a standard progressive.

Nominate her, please. Ruderman is also a good choice but the anti-Burners need to unite.

She's definitely running as a progressive, too. The competitive primary has probably caused some of that, but here's what the mailer I got yesterday says:

"Who's the ONE progressive candidate who can actually make progress on these issues in Congress? Hold Wall Street Accountable. Pro-Choice. Medicare not Millionaires. I DO support marriage equality."

The next page calls her a "progressive problem solver" and talks about raising taxes on the rich.

I like Laura Ruderman but DelBene has clearly become the anti-Burner, and Ruderman's mom has made her campaign look pretty silly.
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« Reply #3542 on: August 01, 2012, 10:09:29 PM »

I refuse to believe it'll actually end up at 30% but I'm having difficulty seeing how it breaks even 35%.
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« Reply #3543 on: August 01, 2012, 10:45:08 PM »

What was it in 2008 and 2010? (Not including the Presidential primary)
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« Reply #3544 on: August 01, 2012, 10:54:55 PM »

2008 was about 43%, 2010 was about 41%. So we're talking about a big drop-off here.

The only thing that's really changed is moving the primary date up. But I'm kinda shocked it would have this much of an effect (I do not recall the move from September to August having a big effect on turnout, for example.)
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« Reply #3545 on: August 01, 2012, 11:32:52 PM »

Hmm. It will be interesting to see if this benefits either side.
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« Reply #3546 on: August 02, 2012, 01:41:10 AM »

I think I figured it out...

Based on the Orbitz survey, more consumers are planning to travel in July (31 percent) rather than in June (18 percent) or August (20 percent) with the rest of travelers still undecided. http://www.hospitalitynet.org/news/4056154.html

July is the most popular month for vacations, with 44% of the Americans, who are taking at least one summer vacation, indicating they plan to vacation in July. http://www.examiner.com/article/a-look-at-america-s-summer-vacation-plans
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« Reply #3547 on: August 05, 2012, 10:46:45 PM »

Burner has gone negative on DelBene:

http://blog.seattlepi.com/seattlepolitics/2012/08/02/darcy-burner-flip-flops-goes-furiously-negative/

Apparently this is a reversal of an earlier pledge of the Burner campaign to not go negative.  Clearly, her internal polling must be telling her that DelBene's self-funded advertising push is working.

Color me skeptical that this last minute attack will actually work.   If I had to bet, my unscientific guess would be that Suzan DelBene will advance to the general with Koster.  
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« Reply #3548 on: August 05, 2012, 11:56:35 PM »

^ I can't wait for her to go away for good after her third loss. At least I hope she goes away...
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« Reply #3549 on: August 06, 2012, 08:36:22 PM »

Why are you guys being so quiet on election eve? Smiley any predictions?
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