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« Reply #4125 on: November 10, 2012, 05:58:43 PM »

Ugh.  He should have won that race.  Thank you, Tea Partiers, for taking the GOP out of the frying pan and into the fire.
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« Reply #4126 on: November 10, 2012, 06:04:06 PM »

Drew has conceded.
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« Reply #4127 on: November 10, 2012, 08:33:51 PM »

King County's batch today was pretty Democratic. Cantwell is now over 60% statewide (though she'll fall under if Dave adds write-ins), and Obama's lead is exactly 14%.
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« Reply #4128 on: November 10, 2012, 11:32:46 PM »

Ugh.  He should have won that race.  Thank you, Tea Partiers, for taking the GOP out of the frying pan and into the fire.


How are the Tea Party specifically to blame for McKenna losing?
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« Reply #4129 on: November 11, 2012, 03:07:58 AM »

Does anyone know what % Obama has in Seattle right now?
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« Reply #4130 on: November 11, 2012, 03:22:30 AM »

Best we have is LD results from Election Night, so not really
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« Reply #4131 on: November 11, 2012, 04:40:25 AM »

I'm guessing Seattle voted 82% Obama. Tongue
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« Reply #4132 on: November 11, 2012, 08:05:10 AM »

Ugh.  He should have won that race.  Thank you, Tea Partiers, for taking the GOP out of the frying pan and into the fire.
They made the GOP look like right-wing extremists (even more than they already appear) and hurt his chances at making inroads in King County.

How are the Tea Party specifically to blame for McKenna losing?
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« Reply #4133 on: November 11, 2012, 02:13:09 PM »

^^ That analysis ignores the fact that McKenna agrees with the national brand and the Tea Party on Obamacare, marriage equality, taxes, and most other issues except perhaps choice (and even there he is by no means pro-choice; he's just not rabidly pro-life).

McKenna ran on standard Republican proposals that Washington voters have consistently rejected. They did so once again. The only reason this was close was 1) McKenna has a good resume and was well-known statewide and 2) his campaign was mildly successful in branding him as moderate.
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« Reply #4134 on: November 11, 2012, 06:53:59 PM »

I wonder if McKenna could have won if he had come out in favor of I-502 and promised to do everything possible as governor to support it if it passed.
 
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« Reply #4135 on: November 12, 2012, 02:25:37 AM »

I wonder if McKenna could have won if he had come out in favor of I-502 and promised to do everything possible as governor to support it if it passed.
 

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« Reply #4136 on: November 12, 2012, 02:27:22 AM »

How many more ballots left to count?
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« Reply #4137 on: November 12, 2012, 02:28:05 AM »

How many more ballots left to count?

~270k
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« Reply #4138 on: November 12, 2012, 09:23:51 PM »

R-74 is now beating R-71.
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« Reply #4139 on: November 12, 2012, 10:21:08 PM »

With this law passed are all the current people in WA prisons for cannabis related crime set to be released the day the law takes effect?
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« Reply #4140 on: November 12, 2012, 10:34:24 PM »

With this law passed are all the current people in WA prisons for cannabis related crime set to be released the day the law takes effect?

No, although King and Pierce counties (Seattle and Tacoma) are dismissing pending prosecutions.
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« Reply #4141 on: November 13, 2012, 01:11:45 AM »

I know this has already been mentioned, but I can't get over the current standing of the 17th Legislative District race...

Probst ahead by 16 votes......

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« Reply #4142 on: November 13, 2012, 01:16:38 AM »

I know this has already been mentioned, but I can't get over the current standing of the 17th Legislative District race...

Probst ahead by 16 votes......


Yeah... That's going to a recount for sure. How's the House race, position 1 doing?
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« Reply #4143 on: November 13, 2012, 01:19:09 AM »

Two disturbing State Senate stories today:

- Rep. Jan Angel will indeed run in the 26th LD special election next fall for Kilmer's old seat. Our odds of holding the seat have now dropped considerably.

- More immediately worrying, Tim Sheldon and Rodney Tom have announced that if they hold the balance of power in the Senate (which they will if Don Benton is re-elected down in the 17th) they will force some sort of bizarre bipartisan Senate arrangement wherein both parties would control committee chairmanships and floor authority: http://blog.thenewstribune.com/politics/2012/11/12/tim-sheldon-rodney-tom-hope-to-force-power-sharing-arrangement-in-senate/

In short, losing the 17th LD race will mean Democrats have lost control of the State Senate.
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« Reply #4144 on: November 13, 2012, 01:44:25 AM »

Your second point is not good... not good at all. Is it possible to primary either Sheldon or Tom in the future?

At least Hargrove and Hatfield respect the Dem leadership....

Also, wasn't there another Hargrove somewhere that was elected to the Senate? Or was that to the House?
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« Reply #4145 on: November 13, 2012, 01:54:21 AM »

Mark Hargrove is a Republican elected to the State House in 2010 from the 47th LD (he looks to have survived his challenge this year 50.31% to 49.69%).

There's been at least one attempt to challenge Sheldon in the past but it wasn't very successful (he's been in office for eons and is well-liked in his district). Tom likely will get a challenger (labor is probably already looking for someone). Hopefully he doesn't get a dime in financial assistance from the Senate Democratic caucus in his re-election bid.
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« Reply #4146 on: November 13, 2012, 02:10:58 AM »

So basically we have a 50% chance of holding the Senate now, and a 0% chance as of November 2013 when Angel gets Kilmer's seat.

I've never trusted Tom. He was always a slimy opportunist and nothing more.

I got in an argument right before the election about Haugen. Some fellow liberals claimed she was a bad transportation committee chairwoman, and since Democrats will surely maintain control of the Senate, they hoped Bailey would beat her and we would get a new (Democratic) chair. I argued that it was a foolish assumption that we would maintain control of the Senate, especially given Kilmer's likely election to Congress. They just didn't get it. They are idealists with little understanding of politics.

Who could run against Tom? Would Hunter dare challenge him?

This makes defeating Hill even more important. I'm not sure who a top tier candidate against him would be. Springer, maybe?
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« Reply #4147 on: November 13, 2012, 08:26:50 PM »

Uh oh!

Benton (R) 26,534
Probst (D) 26,469

Although:

Stonier (D) 26,404
Olson (R) 26,365
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« Reply #4148 on: November 13, 2012, 09:07:52 PM »

Uh oh indeed Sad

In brighter news, Ed Murray just got elected leader of the Senate Democratic caucus. He's not the first LGBT caucus leader in a state legislature (the Speaker of the California Assembly is gay) but he is the first in Washington and the first to lead an upper chamber.

This is also a pretty clear indication he isn't going to be running for Mayor of Seattle.
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« Reply #4149 on: November 13, 2012, 10:42:05 PM »

Clark County has an estimated 5,200 ballots left. If the current proportions stayed the same, that would mean approximately 1,500 left in the 17th district.

I like Ed Murray. If he does become Senate majority leader, then the 43rd district will lead both chambers. Grin
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