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« Reply #3150 on: February 13, 2012, 03:25:09 pm »
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John Milem, a Vancouver man who was basically the redistricting committee's vigilante roadie, was thanked by the commissioners after the process finished and is now petitioning for the Supreme Court to strike it down.
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« Reply #3151 on: February 13, 2012, 04:55:13 pm »
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The Gay has been signed.

http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/02/13/10398748-wash-governor-signs-gay-marriage-bill-into-law
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« Reply #3152 on: February 13, 2012, 05:33:55 pm »
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Three cheers for the great state of Washington!  This is a landmark moment in our state history.
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« Reply #3153 on: February 13, 2012, 07:06:01 pm »
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Congrats to Washington!!!
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« Reply #3154 on: February 13, 2012, 07:22:04 pm »
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« Reply #3155 on: February 13, 2012, 07:27:10 pm »
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Also noteworthy is that the New Jersey Senate passed gay marriage today. It doesn't have enough votes to override a possible Christie veto but it does have enough votes to be sent to referendum.
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« Reply #3156 on: February 13, 2012, 07:34:25 pm »
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Yay us(Washington)!!!!!

And New Jersey too!
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« Reply #3157 on: February 13, 2012, 07:42:50 pm »
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I'm sure there will be a referendum, so don't get too excited just yet.
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« Reply #3158 on: February 13, 2012, 08:13:37 pm »
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Civil liberties marches onward.
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« Reply #3159 on: February 13, 2012, 08:14:11 pm »
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« Reply #3160 on: February 13, 2012, 08:16:11 pm »
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John Milem, a Vancouver man who was basically the redistricting committee's vigilante roadie, was thanked by the commissioners after the process finished and is now petitioning for the Supreme Court to strike it down.

Vancouver, WA?
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« Reply #3161 on: February 13, 2012, 08:33:58 pm »
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John Milem, a Vancouver man who was basically the redistricting committee's vigilante roadie, was thanked by the commissioners after the process finished and is now petitioning for the Supreme Court to strike it down.

Vancouver, WA?

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« Reply #3162 on: February 13, 2012, 11:14:54 pm »
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John Milem, a Vancouver man who was basically the redistricting committee's vigilante roadie, was thanked by the commissioners after the process finished and is now petitioning for the Supreme Court to strike it down.

Vancouver, WA?

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Glad it's being challenged, though I'm not a fan of his proposed maps. The Highway 20 connection bothers me the most. Sure, it's technically a road connection, but it's closed for half the year! You can't even travel on that road during election season. It should not be used as a connection.

Furthermore, he may only have four counties split --- but he splits King County seven ways to do this, despite the fact that King County only has about 1.9 million people.

He's right about the commission ignoring the rules (they just used "community of interest" BS when necessary to justify their gerrymanders), but focusing on the goals as much as he did results in an equally silly map, IMO.
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« Reply #3163 on: February 13, 2012, 11:36:24 pm »
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Oh wow, cross cascades district is really designed to protect the incumbent Republican.
http://www.spokanegop.com/component/content/article/353-washington-state-congressional-district-map-as-adopted-by-the-redistricting-commission-on-january-1st-2012
I think this is the right map? I am not sure how taking away king county instead of pierce county can be justified for a cross cascade county except for gerrymandering/incumbent protection. If it's an I-90 district, shouldn't it actually have areas near I-90 instead of random collection of rural areas? 4 Safe Republican seats isn't cool.
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« Reply #3164 on: February 13, 2012, 11:56:23 pm »
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That's the right map. And it's definitely an incumbent protection map, which was to be expected, though I was hoping it wouldn't be that bad.

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« Reply #3165 on: February 14, 2012, 01:30:52 am »
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That's the right map. And it's definitely an incumbent protection map, which was to be expected, though I was hoping it wouldn't be that bad.


Do democratic incumbents really need protection?
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« Reply #3166 on: February 14, 2012, 01:35:37 am »
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That's the right map. And it's definitely an incumbent protection map, which was to be expected, though I was hoping it wouldn't be that bad.


Do democratic incumbents really need protection?

Rick Larsen did.

Party elder Denny Heck was also treated as a de facto incumbent.
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« Reply #3167 on: February 14, 2012, 02:55:07 am »
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That's the right map. And it's definitely an incumbent protection map, which was to be expected, though I was hoping it wouldn't be that bad.


Do democratic incumbents really need protection?

Rick Larsen did.

Party elder Denny Heck was also treated as a de facto incumbent.
Isn't 3rd turning more Republican though?
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« Reply #3168 on: February 14, 2012, 03:02:27 am »
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Yes, but Heck is getting the new 10th district instead.
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« Reply #3169 on: February 14, 2012, 06:45:49 am »
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Hah, the glitterbomber from the Santorum rally was the burnout from my chemistry class.  He's apparently now an Occupy camper.  Ahh, predictable.

Bless his soul.
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« Reply #3170 on: February 14, 2012, 05:31:02 pm »
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http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/

Washington is currently running second behind Wisconsin for the next PPP poll.  Vote!
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« Reply #3171 on: February 14, 2012, 05:48:30 pm »
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http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/

Washington is currently running second behind Wisconsin for the next PPP poll.  Vote!

Do they poll the top two when there are only four choices?
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« Reply #3172 on: February 14, 2012, 06:25:56 pm »
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http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/politicsnorthwest/2017504326_another_poll_shows_mckenna_lea.html

Elway, 405 RV, shows McKenna 45%, Inslee 36%:

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Continuing an early trend in Washington's 2012 governor's race, a new Elway poll finds Republican Attorney General Rob McKenna with a 9-point lead over Democratic Congressman Jay Inslee.

The poll, conducted last week, found 45 percent of respondents would "definitely" or "probably" vote for McKenna, compared with 36 percent for Inslee.

Pollster Stuart Elway notes one "ominous" sign for Inslee in the poll data: the proportion of voters with a negative impression of him (22 percent) is nearly equal to those with a positive impression (28 percent).

By contrast, McKenna has a 3 to 1 ratio of positive to negative impression among voters surveyed.

Elway also found McKenna enjoying a lead among key independent voters: 49 percent said they're at least leaning toward McKenna compared with 24 percent for Inslee.

In addition, McKenna is picking up 13 percent of Democrats in the poll, while only 3 percent of Republicans said they'd cross party lines to back Inslee.

Overall, Elway says the results show "a significant early advantage" for McKenna, while Inslee has yet to broaden his appeal beyond the Democratic base.

"McKenna does an even better job among voters who are familiar with both candidates, suggesting that he will get stronger as the campaign unfolds," Elway notes. "But there are many miles to go before we vote."

The poll of 405 registered voters has a margin of error of plus/minus 5 percent.

Inslee's continuing lag in the early polls has been worrying Democrats, who united behind the Bainbridge Island Congressman early, stifling any notion of a primary challenge.

Some Democratic operatives have been quietly agitating for Inslee to quit Congress and concentrate on campaigning full-time. Inslee has said he has no plans to do so.
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« Reply #3173 on: February 15, 2012, 05:07:37 pm »
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PPP is going to be polling us this weekend.  Any suggestions on questions?  (Beyond the obvious -- marriage equality, pot, Cantwell/Bryant, Cantwell/Baumgartner, Gov) -- I'll pass them onto PPP.
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« Reply #3174 on: February 15, 2012, 05:12:14 pm »
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Has Governor McKenna started fitting the curtains for his new office yet?
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