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« Reply #3775 on: August 28, 2012, 09:04:12 am »
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Expect to see ads very soon about how if R-74 is approved churches will be forced by the government to marry gay couples.

No, the ads will be about how YOUR children will be taught in class about how being gay is ok and people of the same-sex will be able to get married, and how they'll be taught about gay sex and be forced to attend their teachers' gay marriages. Then, the referendum will not pass.
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« Reply #3776 on: August 28, 2012, 09:19:22 am »
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Expect to see ads very soon about how if R-74 is approved churches will be forced by the government to marry gay couples.

No, the ads will be about how YOUR children will be taught in class about how being gay is ok and people of the same-sex will be able to get married, and how they'll be taught about gay sex and be forced to attend their teachers' gay marriages. Then, the referendum will not pass.

There will be a healthy mixture of both.
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« Reply #3777 on: August 29, 2012, 07:37:39 pm »
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Not helping McKenna:

Bob McDonnell told Republican Convention delegates from Washington State and Montana at a breakfast yesterday morning that McKenna would govern like Scott Walker has in Wisconsin.

http://hotlineoncall.nationaljournal.com/archives/2012/08/mcdonnell-ties.php#more

McDonnell appears clueless about Washington State politics.
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« Reply #3778 on: August 29, 2012, 07:59:44 pm »
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Also, what's up with McKenna's refusal to release his taxes? I don't care, but the media for some reason seems to be protracting the story.
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« Reply #3779 on: August 29, 2012, 09:44:27 pm »
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Also, what's up with McKenna's refusal to release his taxes? I don't care, but the media for some reason seems to be protracting the story.

I think it makes him look bad. Maybe he doesn't want us to notice the bribes from Kemper Freeman? Tongue
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« Reply #3780 on: August 29, 2012, 09:55:22 pm »
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Oh, hey. There is about to be a gubernatorial debate. You can watch it live on KOMO's site. Maybe I'll watch... but its probably going to be a snoozefest.
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« Reply #3781 on: August 30, 2012, 12:10:25 am »
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CD 1 - Dems Only (DelBene - Red, Burner - Green, Ruderman - Yellow)



A pretty regional map. Ruderman's cluster of precincts in Kirkland is where she lives. Burner got Ames Lake and the part of East King County she lives (or lived?) in. DelBene won the rest, doing best around the Gold Coast where she lives.
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« Reply #3782 on: August 30, 2012, 12:31:46 am »
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Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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« Reply #3783 on: August 31, 2012, 02:13:53 pm »
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Awesome work, realisticidealist!  Do you know waht % Cantwell and Inslee got in Seattle and Bellevue?
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« Reply #3784 on: September 01, 2012, 12:55:22 am »
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Awesome work, realisticidealist!  Do you know waht % Cantwell and Inslee got in Seattle and Bellevue?

Inslee got 76.73% in Seattle and 48.25% in Bellevue.
McKenna got 19.02% in Seattle and 47.17% in Bellevue.

Cantwell got 82.71% in Seattle and 58.98% in Bellevue.
Baumgartner got 11.58% in Seattle and 32.06% in Bellevue.
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« Reply #3785 on: September 01, 2012, 01:02:15 am »
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Awesome work, realisticidealist!  Do you know waht % Cantwell and Inslee got in Seattle and Bellevue?

Inslee got 76.73% in Seattle and 48.25% in Bellevue.
McKenna got 19.02% in Seattle and 47.17% in Bellevue.

Cantwell got 82.71% in Seattle and 58.98% in Bellevue.
Baumgartner got 11.58% in Seattle and 32.06% in Bellevue.


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« Reply #3786 on: September 01, 2012, 01:22:54 am »
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And Baumgartner likely will only get owned even harder in the general given his recent actions.

I like that he challenged Cantwell, a sitting senator, to 38 debates.
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« Reply #3787 on: September 01, 2012, 01:40:57 am »
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And Baumgartner likely will only get owned even harder in the general given his recent actions.

I like that he challenged Cantwell, a sitting senator, to 38 debates.

Ha ha here's a link:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/29/michael-baumgartner-cussed-reporter_n_1840068.html

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« Reply #3788 on: September 01, 2012, 02:25:47 am »
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I still don't even understand the Feit incident...how does that email make any sense as a response to a question on abortion?  I'm not saying this is necessarily probable, but it does seem like drunk logic.
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« Reply #3789 on: September 01, 2012, 12:55:30 pm »
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Not to mention the former Washington Republican Party chairman, who has never voted for a Democrat, endorsed Cantwell.

What should be Inslee's vote percentage in Bellevue come the general election? 52%? 54%?
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« Reply #3790 on: September 01, 2012, 02:26:02 pm »
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And Baumgartner likely will only get owned even harder in the general given his recent actions.

I like that he challenged Cantwell, a sitting senator, to 38 debates.

Ha ha here's a link:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/29/michael-baumgartner-cussed-reporter_n_1840068.html

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I like how that TV reporter Jasmine Bailey said that Baumgartner is "locked in heated race with Maria Cantwell."  Lol, that is not how I would describe the state of the race.  The only heated thing is the hot mess of the Baumgartner campaign.

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« Reply #3791 on: September 01, 2012, 08:59:05 pm »
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And Baumgartner likely will only get owned even harder in the general given his recent actions.

I like that he challenged Cantwell, a sitting senator, to 38 debates.

38? A debate in each county or something?
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« Reply #3792 on: September 01, 2012, 09:27:50 pm »
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And Baumgartner likely will only get owned even harder in the general given his recent actions.

I like that he challenged Cantwell, a sitting senator, to 38 debates.

38? A debate in each county or something?

yep, he asked for one for each county (39)

I can't wait for the Garfield County debate, analyzing all the issues important to the people of Pomeroy
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« Reply #3793 on: September 04, 2012, 02:36:34 am »
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So, Jim Postma crashed a plane...
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« Reply #3794 on: September 04, 2012, 10:29:10 am »
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So, Jim Postma crashed a plane...

Apparently he 'forgot' to put down the landing gear the second time he came around. Oops!
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« Reply #3795 on: September 04, 2012, 11:02:19 am »
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I think it's interesting Republicans keep using the "Jay Inslee is a quitter" line.

Pretty sure my then State Senator, Dino Rossi, "quit" to run for Governor, too. And they had no problem supporting him not once, not twice, but three times. Roll Eyes
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« Reply #3796 on: September 04, 2012, 03:46:40 pm »
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Hey so I was born in Washington, but haven't lived there since I was 5. So I'd like to know a little about Washington politics (I figure this is the general Washington topics thread. If it isn't, please direct me to the right one).

First, what's the general political layout of Washington? From what I understand, the West, specifically the Puget Sound area is very liberal in most cases, while the East is very conservative. And I know Bellingham is a random liberal college town enclave in an otherwise sparsely populated area. But other than that, I don't know much about which parts of Washington have which political affiliations.

Second, what differences do Washington Democrats have with other Democrats? What are they notably more conservative or more liberal on than other Dems?

Third, are those Socialist Alternative guys actually a factor, or is it just a case of "stronger than usual" third party voting?

Fourth, who represents Kent, Washington? I was born there (in '93), so I'm curious to know who would have represented me and who would be representing me now.
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« Reply #3797 on: September 04, 2012, 06:38:48 pm »
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Hey so I was born in Washington, but haven't lived there since I was 5. So I'd like to know a little about Washington politics (I figure this is the general Washington topics thread. If it isn't, please direct me to the right one).

Welcome to the thread! Smiley Yes, you're in the right place.

First, what's the general political layout of Washington? From what I understand, the West, specifically the Puget Sound area is very liberal in most cases, while the East is very conservative. And I know Bellingham is a random liberal college town enclave in an otherwise sparsely populated area. But other than that, I don't know much about which parts of Washington have which political affiliations.

Here's the 2008 map:



The Puget Sound metro is definitely very left-leaning.  Seattle and its innermost suburban areas are very left-wing, especially on social issues; the affluent east side of Lake Washington has been trending Democratic over the years as social issues have become more prominent.  The outer Seattle suburbs vary, but lean strong Democratic; social issue voting tends to lean left but depends on education/income especially.  Tacoma (south of Seattle), Bremerton (west) and Everett (north) are all left-leaning with some socially conservative Democrats.  Olympia is very left-wing, although its suburbs only tilt left.  Bellingham is the same deal, with some very conservative areas outside of it.

Southwestern Washington varies from right-ring rural areas to working-class industry towns (like Kelso-Longview) to lower-to-upper middle class suburbs and exurbs (the Vancouver area.)

The rest of Western Washington varies like every state does, with some very conservative rural areas, towns that vary by industry and the nature of their population.  Overall, Western Washington is fairly competitive in most elections outside Seattle.

With a few exceptions (parts of urban areas, areas of minority populations and a hippie enclave in the Okanogan), Eastern Washington tends to be Republican and conservative all-around.

Second, what differences do Washington Democrats have with other Democrats? What are they notably more conservative or more liberal on than other Dems?

I'd say they're more liberal overall, although a lot are fiscally moderate.  Washington has quite a few Dem-leaning swing voters that muddle things overall.  Spokane, Tacoma, Everett, Bremerton and the lower-scale Seattle suburbs also have some conservative Democrats.  Overall, though, I'd say there are many fewer blue dogs in Washington versus the national average (not a surprise.)

Third, are those Socialist Alternative guys actually a factor, or is it just a case of "stronger than usual" third party voting?

Non-factor.  They only make the ballot in Seattle districts because no Republican filed.  Even a Republican would kick them out -- which is saying something, considering the voting patterns in central Seattle.

Fourth, who represents Kent, Washington? I was born there (in '93), so I'm curious to know who would have represented me and who would be representing me now.

Pretty sure Adam Smith represents it now, not sure about back then
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« Reply #3798 on: September 04, 2012, 08:41:20 pm »
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Hey so I was born in Washington, but haven't lived there since I was 5. So I'd like to know a little about Washington politics (I figure this is the general Washington topics thread. If it isn't, please direct me to the right one).

Welcome to the thread! Smiley Yes, you're in the right place.

First, what's the general political layout of Washington? From what I understand, the West, specifically the Puget Sound area is very liberal in most cases, while the East is very conservative. And I know Bellingham is a random liberal college town enclave in an otherwise sparsely populated area. But other than that, I don't know much about which parts of Washington have which political affiliations.

Here's the 2008 map:



The Puget Sound metro is definitely very left-leaning.  Seattle and its innermost suburban areas are very left-wing, especially on social issues; the affluent east side of Lake Washington has been trending Democratic over the years as social issues have become more prominent.  The outer Seattle suburbs vary, but lean strong Democratic; social issue voting tends to lean left but depends on education/income especially.  Tacoma (south of Seattle), Bremerton (west) and Everett (north) are all left-leaning with some socially conservative Democrats.  Olympia is very left-wing, although its suburbs only tilt left.  Bellingham is the same deal, with some very conservative areas outside of it.

Southwestern Washington varies from right-ring rural areas to working-class industry towns (like Kelso-Longview) to lower-to-upper middle class suburbs and exurbs (the Vancouver area.)

The rest of Western Washington varies like every state does, with some very conservative rural areas, towns that vary by industry and the nature of their population.  Overall, Western Washington is fairly competitive in most elections outside Seattle.

With a few exceptions (parts of urban areas, areas of minority populations and a hippie enclave in the Okanogan), Eastern Washington tends to be Republican and conservative all-around.

Second, what differences do Washington Democrats have with other Democrats? What are they notably more conservative or more liberal on than other Dems?

I'd say they're more liberal overall, although a lot are fiscally moderate.  Washington has quite a few Dem-leaning swing voters that muddle things overall.  Spokane, Tacoma, Everett, Bremerton and the lower-scale Seattle suburbs also have some conservative Democrats.  Overall, though, I'd say there are many fewer blue dogs in Washington versus the national average (not a surprise.)

Third, are those Socialist Alternative guys actually a factor, or is it just a case of "stronger than usual" third party voting?

Non-factor.  They only make the ballot in Seattle districts because no Republican filed.  Even a Republican would kick them out -- which is saying something, considering the voting patterns in central Seattle.

Fourth, who represents Kent, Washington? I was born there (in '93), so I'm curious to know who would have represented me and who would be representing me now.

Pretty sure Adam Smith represents it now, not sure about back then
I wouldn't call second homes from Seattle area residents in Okanoganan and Chelan a hippie enclave.
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« Reply #3799 on: September 04, 2012, 10:15:45 pm »
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Methow has a decent number of second homes, which I should have mentioned, but there's definitely a significant population of crunchy types and retirees.  That's just the impression I got when I was there.  Definitely some downscale liberals going on too.
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