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« Reply #4050 on: October 03, 2012, 01:03:35 pm »
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McKenna attacked constantly and sounded desperate and snarky. Was not a good performance for him.
I agree, he attacked a lot and came off as too aggressive, but I felt he had much more substance/came off as more knowledgeable about the issues and addressed the questions more than Inslee, who I felt said the same talking points almost every question.

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« Reply #4051 on: October 03, 2012, 01:47:42 pm »
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I agree, he attacked a lot and came off as too aggressive, but I felt he had much more substance/came off as more knowledgeable about the issues and addressed the questions more than Inslee, who I felt said the same talking points almost every question.

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« Reply #4052 on: October 03, 2012, 03:20:38 pm »
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Michael Baumgartner endorsed I-502 today: http://www.thenewstribune.com/2012/10/03/2319292/gop-senate-hopeful-latest-to-endorse.html

The Columbian, which IMO is usually pretty right-wing, also endorsed it on Sunday. I know The Olympian and The Seattle Times have as well. The News Tribune did not. Not sure about other papers off the top of my head.
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« Reply #4053 on: October 03, 2012, 04:08:45 pm »
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Michael Baumgartner endorsed I-502 today: http://www.thenewstribune.com/2012/10/03/2319292/gop-senate-hopeful-latest-to-endorse.html

The Columbian, which IMO is usually pretty right-wing, also endorsed it on Sunday. I know The Olympian and The Seattle Times have as well. The News Tribune did not. Not sure about other papers off the top of my head.

Haha. Someone's desperate.
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« Reply #4054 on: October 04, 2012, 12:26:56 pm »
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« Reply #4055 on: October 04, 2012, 01:13:58 pm »
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Pretty sure all these posts are made up
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« Reply #4056 on: October 04, 2012, 01:42:04 pm »
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Pretty sure all these posts are made up

The last few would seem to confirm that hypothesis.

Fooled the PI! http://blog.seattlepi.com/seattlepolitics/2012/10/04/no-hack-just-fact-mckenna-takes-over-the-stranger/
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« Reply #4057 on: October 04, 2012, 04:42:17 pm »
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I can't find the full topline, but Referendum 74 is at 55% on the latest SUSA (-1%), and pot legalization is unchanged at 57%.
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« Reply #4058 on: October 04, 2012, 05:31:34 pm »
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I figured legalization would have plummeted by now. Maybe it will actually pass!
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« Reply #4059 on: October 04, 2012, 05:34:15 pm »
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There's still no organized opposition campaign besides the medical marijuana community opposing it from the left (and they're not very organized either). Plus it's been getting good editorials in the newspaper. I'm inclined to think it'll pass as well, unless the feds come in and start raising legal questions to the local media.
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« Reply #4060 on: October 04, 2012, 07:48:33 pm »
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There's still no organized opposition campaign besides the medical marijuana community opposing it from the left (and they're not very organized either). Plus it's been getting good editorials in the newspaper. I'm inclined to think it'll pass as well, unless the feds come in and start raising legal questions to the local media.

I also think the No on I-502 people who are semi-organized are exactly the sort of people the Yes on I-502 people want for opposition.  The biggest victory for an actually viable counter-argument was the TNT endorsement...and that's pretty much nothing.  It's hard to see it going from 57% to a loss.  I think it may end up with a double-digit win.
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« Reply #4061 on: October 04, 2012, 09:17:23 pm »
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I'm somewhat shocked by this -- the Spokane Spokesman-Review editorialized in favor of both I-502 and R-74.

http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2012/oct/02/editorial-regulation-taxation-of-marijuana-worth/

http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2012/sep/16/editorial-editorial-affirm-r-74-because-state-has/

I'm increasingly optimistic both will pass.



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« Reply #4062 on: October 05, 2012, 02:11:48 am »
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Any particular reason charter schools will finally pass? Or is it just that the pro-side has way more money?
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« Reply #4063 on: October 05, 2012, 02:37:47 am »
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Any particular reason charter schools will finally pass? Or is it just that the pro-side has way more money?

That's a big part.  Also, the No side, at least whenever I've seen them, has terrible messaging.  They operate either in pithy soundbites or heinously long presentations that I can never remember anything about.  They haven't managed to expand their campaign beyond their base.
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« Reply #4064 on: October 05, 2012, 08:24:36 pm »
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Full SUSA results:

Gay marriage (Approve +15)
Approve 55% (-1)
Reject 40% (+2)
Undecided 6% (nc)
"Dumb" extrapolation: 58-42 Approve (+16)

Marijuana legalization (Yes +24)
Yes 57% (nc)
No 33% (-1)
Undecided 10% (+1)
"Dumb" extrapolation: 63-37 Yes (+27)

Eyman's symbolic thing (Yes +30)
Yes 56% (-2)
No 26% (+5)
Undecided 17% (-3)
"Dumb" extrapolation: 68-32 Yes (+37)

Charter schools (Yes +19)
Yes 49% (-3)
No 30% (+4)
Undecided 21% (-1)
"Dumb" extrapolation: 62-38 Yes (+24)

U.S. Senate (Cantwell +13)
Cantwell 53% (-1)
Baumgartner 40% (+2)
Undecided 6% (-1)
"Dumb" extrapolation: 57-43 Cantwell (+14)

Attorney General (D+8)
Ferguson 43% (+1)
Dunn 35% (+2)
Undecided 21% (-3)
"Dumb" extrapolation: 55-45 Ferguson (+10)

No link yet.  I think it's a little weird that Obama is kicking Cantwell's ass.
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« Reply #4065 on: October 06, 2012, 01:19:56 am »
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The charter school people learned a lesson from Costco: gather enough money to put something on the ballot enough times and eventually it'll get approved.

Yay direct democracy!
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« Reply #4066 on: October 06, 2012, 01:55:09 pm »
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Full SUSA results:

Marijuana legalization (Yes +24)
Yes 57% (nc)
No 33% (-1)
Undecided 10% (+1)
"Dumb" extrapolation: 63-37 Yes (+27)

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« Reply #4067 on: October 06, 2012, 03:22:27 pm »
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Meet Tonasket Mayor Patrick "I Have Friends That Are Disabled" Plumb

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« Reply #4068 on: October 10, 2012, 01:38:43 am »
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Lolway may have released another poll last week.  So far, the only possible specifics I've found are R-74 at 57% (up from 51%)
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« Reply #4069 on: October 10, 2012, 01:42:44 am »
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The anti-R-74 ads begin airing on Monday. Sad
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« Reply #4070 on: October 10, 2012, 05:03:03 pm »
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The anti-R-74 ads begin airing on Monday. Sad

The Eastside was carpet bombed with Reject R-74 signs over the weekend. :/
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« Reply #4071 on: October 11, 2012, 10:53:33 am »
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Any chance those cop killer commercials will drag down Ferguson? It reminds me of the sleazy ads that allowed McKenna to beat Senn in 2004.
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« Reply #4072 on: October 11, 2012, 05:07:39 pm »
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Are there any more debates left in the governor's race?  I'm beginning to lose hope.  I sure hope you guys don't make it 32 years of Democrat governors!
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« Reply #4073 on: October 11, 2012, 10:53:34 pm »
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Are there any more debates left in the governor's race?  I'm beginning to lose hope.  I sure hope you guys don't make it 32 years of Democrat governors!
There's one tonight, but I don't think they'll have much of an impact. I'm hoping McKenna can pull it off, but its definitely looking better for Inslee.
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« Reply #4074 on: October 12, 2012, 08:28:13 am »
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Are there any more debates left in the governor's race?  I'm beginning to lose hope.  I sure hope you guys don't make it 32 years of Democrat governors!
There's one tonight, but I don't think they'll have much of an impact. I'm hoping McKenna can pull it off, but its definitely looking better for Inslee.
I think it's ridiculous that they would schedule it the same night as the VP debate.  I still think McKenna can do it, though.
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