War Prevention Bill [Debate open]

[Meeker]

War Prevention Bill

Section 1: Findings
To be able to ensure that war is avoided and only pursued when absolutely necessary those making the decision need to have a personal attachment to the choice to go to war.
Section 2: Terms
If Atlasia invades a sovereign nation before being attacked itself and the President of Atlasia has healthy offspring ages 18-35 then the offsring must be enrolled in the military from the start of hostilities.


Sponsor: CultureKing

[Sam Spade]

What a stupid piece of legislation.  Besides, it wouldn't prevent war around here...

[afleitch]

I cannot support this bill. War is a complicated business.

[Peter]

It is the opinion of the Attorney General that this bill would violate the Constitution.

Article VI, Section 2 states:

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By subjecting a private citizen (the Presidential offspring) to a different Law to others, where he has absolutely no control over his status as being subject to that Law, completely offends equal protection.

I encourage the defeat of this bill.

[Colin]

This is quite possibly one of the stupidest things to come before this chamber since the days of Mr. Naso.

[Robespierre's Jaw]

What a stupid piece of legislation.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

The Senator agrees. May I ask Senator King, what was the purpose behind this piece of legislation?

[Small Business Owner of Any Repute]

Should this pass, I hereby declare my intent to
(1) Declare war on China.
(2) Legally adopt Xahar.

[King]

I encourage the Senate to pass this legislation so I can re-register, run for President, and have my forum son CultureKing enlist.


In all seriousness, this should've been introduced as a resolution that "recommends service" than an actual bill.

[Хahar 🤔]

Should this pass, I hereby declare my intent to
(1) Declare war on China.
(2) Legally adopt Xahar.

Are you sure you want to subject the Chinese to such total defeat?

[12th Doctor]

Should this pass, I hereby declare my intent to
(1) Declare war on China.
(2) Legally adopt Xahar.

Are you sure you want to subject the Chinese to such total defeat?

Ohhhh... taking it to the house.





Honestly, I have never found a piece of legislation I oppose more.  This is just ridiculous on many levels.  First, its a form of forced, and thus, unconstitutional servitude.  Second, no one should be forced to pay for the actions of their parents... am kinda sad I felt the need to state why I oppose this.

[CultureKing]

hey, it was just an idea. It seems to me that if you have a large personal interest in the decision to go to war a president would be much more cautious in doing so, also it would set a precedent for the country.
http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/commentary/la-oe-kelley19mar19,0,737381.story?track=mostviewed-homepage

Remember it was just an idea, no need to flip out, simply vote it down and leave it if you oppose it.

[12th Doctor]

hey, it was just an idea. It seems to me that if you have a large personal interest in the decision to go to war a president would be much more cautious in doing so, also it would set a precedent for the country.
http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/commentary/la-oe-kelley19mar19,0,737381.story?track=mostviewed-homepage

Remember it was just an idea, no need to flip out, simply vote it down and leave it if you oppose it.

I think the whole bill moves on a number of false assumptions, not least of which, that a President has no "large personal interest" in going to war if they don't have a loved one being thrown into the fight.

[12th Doctor]

And even if your theory is correct, it places an undue burden on a President with children of military age that a President without such a circumstance would not face... again, assuming your theory is correct that President's who have no children at the front don't suffer personal burden's from sending Atlasian men and women into a scenario in which they might die.

[Kaine for Senate '18]

This is a horrible piece of legislation.  I highly doubt that, just because they don't have any family going to war, a President would be any more inclined to go to war.

[King]

The wording as also kind of questionable.  What if a country was threatening to begin an all out assault on Atlasia and we had the ability to take them out with a strategic bombing raid?  The President, assuming he's a caring father, would have to wait for them to attack the homelands before we can act.

[CultureKing]

seeing as there is not chance that this will move on I would like to withdraw this legislation in order to keep things moving.

[Ebowed]

The legislastion has been withdrawn.