Rasmussen Tracking Poll [Obama vs McCain]

[Alcon]

45% (+1) trust McCain most when it comes to economic issues and managing the economy while 42% (+2) prefer Obama.

On national security issues such as the War in Iraq and the War on Terrorism, 49% (-2) have more trust in McCain while 41% (+4) prefer Obama.

Then what the heck are they voting on?

[Eraserhead]

Wednesday June 11, 2008

General: Head-to-Head

Obama: 46% / 49%, including leaners (-2, -1)
McCain: 41% / 44%, including leaners (+1, +1)

Favorability

Obama: 56% favorable; 42% unfavorable (-3, +2)
McCain: 55% favorable; 42% unfavorable (+1, -1)

Issues

45% (+1) trust McCain most when it comes to economic issues and managing the economy while 42% (+2) prefer Obama.

On national security issues such as the War in Iraq and the War on Terrorism, 49% (-2) have more trust in McCain while 41% (+4) prefer Obama.

A former Clinton advisor put it this way:

"You can a candidate who can't win (Obama), nominated by a party (Democratic) that can't lose. At the same time you have a candidate who is going to win (McCain), nominated by a party (Republican) destined to lose."

That's a great quote... if you take Dick Morris seriously.

By the way, your candidate is still losing.

[Keystone Phil]

By the way, your candidate is still losing.

Yeah. Five months left. Forget it, guys. There's no way it's happening.

[ottermax]

Talking to our enemies... that seems like a good idea... maybe the bravest are the ones who step back to think before retaliating.

[Iosif is a COTHO]

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Oh my god, that's hilarious.

Yeah, Reagan and GWB really put their life on the line in service of the country.


and..wait a second, Obama isn't president yet.

[Keystone Phil]

They prefered doing drugs, taking up liberal causes, and trying to talk to our enemies.

You really help our cause, Mike.

[riceowl]

Also...

The mentality of your political party is that of cowards afraid of conflict. Great men like Harry Truman ...knew what it took to take on our enemies.

...huh?

[Albus Dumbledore]

what

[CARLHAYDEN]

45% (+1) trust McCain most when it comes to economic issues and managing the economy while 42% (+2) prefer Obama.

On national security issues such as the War in Iraq and the War on Terrorism, 49% (-2) have more trust in McCain while 41% (+4) prefer Obama.

Then what the heck are they voting on?

Well, let me give you one example (from the ABC/WaPo/TNS poll)

"Regardless of who you may support, who do you trust more to handle immigration issues: Obama or McCain?" Candidate names rotated
 
                      McCain Obama Both (vol.) Neither (vol.) Unsure
                         %          %       %               %                   %
  
5/8-11/08        37         42        3               10                    7

[Reaganfan]

Talking to our enemies... that seems like a good idea... maybe the bravest are the ones who step back to think before retaliating.

There is a difference between the type of enemy the liberals want to talk to, though.

A soviet leader could be spoken to.
A terrorist who will blow himself up to kill you, can not.

[Reaganfan]

They prefered doing drugs, taking up liberal causes, and trying to talk to our enemies.

You really help our cause, Mike.

I'm not gonna stand back and play the whole "let's be pc" game. I am allowed to speak my mind freely on the issues, and after his snide remark...I had to say something.

[Sbane]

Talking to our enemies... that seems like a good idea... maybe the bravest are the ones who step back to think before retaliating.

There is a difference between the type of enemy the liberals want to talk to, though.

A soviet leader could be spoken to.
A terrorist who will blow himself up to kill you, can not.

Osama Bin Laden= Terrorist... Ayotollah Khomeni or Ahmadawhatever- religious zealots but politicians in the end. We can talk to these religious zealots but I agree that negotiating with someone like Osama is not  helpful at all.

[Reaganfan]

Talking to our enemies... that seems like a good idea... maybe the bravest are the ones who step back to think before retaliating.

There is a difference between the type of enemy the liberals want to talk to, though.

A soviet leader could be spoken to.
A terrorist who will blow himself up to kill you, can not.

Osama Bin Laden= Terrorist... Ayotollah Khomeni or Ahmadawhatever- religious zealots but politicians in the end. We can talk to these religious zealots but I agree that negotiating with someone like Osama is not  helpful at all.

Agree.

[Iosif is a COTHO]

If you agree, then what are you complaining about?

No-one's advocating meeting Bin Laden, the argument is over to meet with people like Adjeminihad etc.

[Reaganfan]

If you agree, then what are you complaining about?

No-one's advocating meeting Bin Laden, the argument is over to meet with people like Adjeminihad etc.

See, but I put Adjeminihad in the same category as Osama.

[Verily]

If you agree, then what are you complaining about?

No-one's advocating meeting Bin Laden, the argument is over to meet with people like Adjeminihad etc.

See, but I put Adjeminihad in the same category as Osama.

Which is particularly amusing given that Ahmadinejad doesn't really even have any power within Iran.

[minionofmidas]

If you agree, then what are you complaining about?

No-one's advocating meeting Bin Laden, the argument is over to meet with people like Adjeminihad etc.

See, but I put Adjeminihad in the same category as Osama.

Which is particularly amusing given that Ahmadinejad doesn't really even have any power within Iran.

That's the one thing he and Osama Bin Laden have in common!

[Keystone Phil]

They prefered doing drugs, taking up liberal causes, and trying to talk to our enemies.

You really help our cause, Mike.

I'm not gonna stand back and play the whole "let's be pc" game. I am allowed to speak my mind freely on the issues, and after his snide remark...I had to say something.

"Prefered doing drugs," Mike? Come on.

[Reaganfan]

They prefered doing drugs, taking up liberal causes, and trying to talk to our enemies.

You really help our cause, Mike.

I'm not gonna stand back and play the whole "let's be pc" game. I am allowed to speak my mind freely on the issues, and after his snide remark...I had to say something.

"Prefered doing drugs," Mike? Come on.

Of course anger may have intruded the keyboard, as well.

[bullmoose88]

They prefered doing drugs, taking up liberal causes, and trying to talk to our enemies.

You really help our cause, Mike.

I'm not gonna stand back and play the whole "let's be pc" game. I am allowed to speak my mind freely on the issues, and after his snide remark...I had to say something.

"Prefered doing drugs," Mike? Come on.

Of course anger may have intruded the keyboard, as well.

Probably not the only thing thats done harm to your keyboard as well...

(zing)

[J. J.]

If you agree, then what are you complaining about?

No-one's advocating meeting Bin Laden, the argument is over to meet with people like Adjeminihad etc.

See, but I put Adjeminihad in the same category as Osama.

Which is particularly amusing given that Ahmadinejad doesn't really even have any power within Iran.

That's the one thing he and Osama Bin Laden have in common!

Both opposed to the existence of Israel; both support terrorist organizations.  You did ask.

[Democratic Hawk]

Thursday June 12, 2008

General: Head-to-Head

Obama: 47% / 50%, including leaners (+1, +1)
McCain: 41% / 44%, including leaners (nc, nc)

Obama currently leads by eleven points among women but trails by a single point among men (including leaners). Thirty-nine percent (39%) of women say they are certain they will vote for Obama in November. Another 10% say they would vote for him today but could change their mind, and 3% are leaning towards voting for Obama. For McCain those numbers are 30% certain, 8% who could change their mind, and 3% leaning towards voting for him.

Thirty-six percent (36%) of men are certain they will vote for McCain while 34% say the same about Obama.

Favorability

Obama: 56% favorable; 42% unfavorable (nc, nc)
McCain: 54% favorable; 44% unfavorable (-1, +2)

[Democratic Hawk]

Friday June 13, 2008

General: Head-to-Head

Obama: 47% / 49%, including leaners (nc, -1)
McCain: 40% / 44%, including leaners (-1, nc)

Obama attracts 84% of political liberals while McCain is supported by 76% of conservatives. While there are more conservatives than liberals in the nation today, Obama also enjoys a twenty-eight point advantage over McCain among moderates.

Favorability

Obama: 55% favorable; 42% unfavorable (-1, nc)
McCain: 52% favorable; 45% unfavorable (-2, +1)

[Democratic Hawk]

If you agree, then what are you complaining about?

No-one's advocating meeting Bin Laden, the argument is over to meet with people like Adjeminihad etc.

See, but I put Adjeminihad in the same category as Osama.

Which is particularly amusing given that Ahmadinejad doesn't really even have any power within Iran.

Exactly. In Iran, the Supreme Leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, has control over foreign policy, the armed forces, nuclear policy, and the main economic policies of the Iranian state; indeed, he has the final say on all matters of policy whether domestic or foreign

Dave

[Dan the Roman]

If you agree, then what are you complaining about?

No-one's advocating meeting Bin Laden, the argument is over to meet with people like Adjeminihad etc.

See, but I put Adjeminihad in the same category as Osama.

Which is particularly amusing given that Ahmadinejad doesn't really even have any power within Iran.

Exactly. In Iran, the Supreme Leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, has control over foreign policy, the armed forces, nuclear policy, and the main economic policies of the Iranian state; indeed, he has the final say on all matters of policy whether domestic or foreign

Dave

More or less true, but it would be more accurate to say that Khamenei is the face of a Conservative oligarchy mainly united by distrust of the conservative faction of former President Hashemi Rafsanjani - the reformists, contrary to western media reports, are quite irrelevant - a lack of military and economic power tends to do that. Khamenei is still the same opinion less cypher who was considered pro-American and Pro-Israel when he served as President in the 1980s. In fact, he was picked as Supreme leader in 1989 precisely because with Montzerai out of the running, he was least threatening figure available. An affable non-entity. Meeting with him would not be much more productive than meeting with Ahmadinejad  and a good deal less amusing.

Real change in Iran will only come when they sort out their internal problems, which will likely occur when the reformists and Rafsanjini realize they need each other in order to stop their enemies from gaining a monopoly on power.

Until that time, relations with the US, a nuclear program so haphazard that it is not even intended to produce a bomb, support for hezbollah, and the situation in Iraq, are all political footballs to be tossed around in factional squabbles. No one has the same position they had fifteen years ago on anything, and virtually every position is opportunistic. Quite frankly the US could work with anyone provided they were in a possession to actually make deals, but that won't happen till someone has consolidated enough that they can insure that the benefits of such an arrangement(primarily financial) will accrue to them, and that they won't be accused of selling out by their rivals because those rivals will be dead or irevelent. Until such a time, talking is meaningless, except as part of a diplomatic game.

{end of rant on Iran - please return to the regularly scheduled Rasmussen poll}