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« Reply #300 on: August 01, 2008, 02:23:51 AM »

a few, maybe, but if you're going to make the same sarcastic comment over and over and over and over, you better be calling out more than a few people.

We've seen a lot of puffery about Obama, even down to "Obama leading" in several states where his numbers were, in fact, steadily dropping.  It's still happening.

Now, I'm 100% in favor of noting this a close race, with Obama having an edge at this point, but it is not solid.
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« Reply #301 on: August 01, 2008, 11:09:34 AM »

Obama Retains Strength Among Highly Educated [30 July, 2008]

McCain does best among those with college degrees but no further education

http://www.gallup.com/poll/109156/Obama-Retains-Strength-Among-Highly-Educated.aspx

Preference for the General Election, by Education

High school or less: Obama 46%; McCain 39%

Some college: Obama 47%; McCain 42%

College graduate: Obama 45%; McCain 47%

Postgraduate: Obama 54; McCain 39%

Weekly aggregate of registered voters, July 21-27, 2008

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« Reply #302 on: August 01, 2008, 11:21:51 AM »

Just curious dave, how much does the DNC pay you to spout their talking points on this site?
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« Reply #303 on: August 01, 2008, 11:50:53 AM »

Just curious dave, how much does the DNC pay you to spout their talking points on this site?

That's not a talking point, it's a competely neutral assessment and in line with previous voting patterns. Republican voting increases with education until you get to graduate school, and then it drops.
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« Reply #304 on: August 01, 2008, 12:08:31 PM »

Just curious dave, how much does the DNC pay you to spout their talking points on this site?

That's not a talking point, it's a competely neutral assessment and in line with previous voting patterns. Republican voting increases with education until you get to graduate school, and then it drops.

That might be job related.
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« Reply #305 on: August 01, 2008, 12:14:30 PM »

Friday, August 1, 2008:

Obama - 44% (-1)
McCain - 44% (nc)

This is not much different from the results reported in Gallup Poll Daily tracking on Thursday, when the two were nearly tied with 45% for Obama and 44% for McCain. However, it is a substantial turnaround from earlier this week when Obama held a statistically significant lead coming off his high-profile trip to Europe, Afghanistan, and the Middle East.

Obama and McCain were closely matched in each of the three nights of interviewing included in today's result, with neither candidate ahead by more than three percentage points. This suggests that the recent surge in voter support for Obama has truly subsided.

The contrast between Obama's recent advantage over McCain (ranging from six to nine points) and today's result is particularly notable because this is McCain's strongest showing in over a month. The last time Gallup found the race exactly tied was in late June. By contrast, in the weeks just prior to Obama's overseas trip, he had led the race by an average of four points. [/quote]
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« Reply #306 on: August 01, 2008, 12:50:39 PM »

This does not include the weekend numbers, but this is NOT good news for Obama, considering that this was real attempt to breakout.
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« Reply #307 on: August 01, 2008, 03:32:02 PM »

Over the last coupld of weeks there has been a mild (and slow) thightening of the race.

As tracking polls tended to go up and down on a daily basis, and the changes were over the long term relatively small, it took some time to determine that the tightening was real, and not just "noise,"

As to the reason(s) for the tightening, there are several which are potential factors, but one which seems to pretty definitely be a factor, i.e. the difference in the candidates current position on energy production.

The Senate Democrats seem to largely have understood that the position of opposing increases in energy production is untenable, while Obama and Pelsi are resolution in there determination that Americans lower their standard of living.

How long will it take Obama to realize that he needs to abandon his 'hairshirt' approach to energy production is likely to harm his candidacy, and change his policy?
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« Reply #308 on: August 02, 2008, 10:09:11 AM »

Either today or tomorrow. we should see the "weekend bump" for Obama, and at some point a lead of 3-4 points.  Anything below that, Obama suffering some moderate to major erosion.
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« Reply #309 on: August 02, 2008, 10:14:23 AM »

This National numbers don't match up with the state numbers.... I hate summer time.
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« Reply #310 on: August 02, 2008, 10:16:54 AM »

This National numbers don't match up with the state numbers.... I hate summer time.

At this stage, the state numbers might be following the national numbers.

Right now, I'm looking at broad trends.  After the conventions, I'll start focusing on the state polls.
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« Reply #311 on: August 02, 2008, 10:22:32 AM »

This National numbers don't match up with the state numbers.... I hate summer time.

At this stage, the state numbers might be following the national numbers.

Right now, I'm looking at broad trends.  After the conventions, I'll start focusing on the state polls.

Ah, ok, I think I am just going to wait until Sept to make anymore predictions...
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« Reply #312 on: August 02, 2008, 12:05:06 PM »

Saturday, August 2, 2008:

Obama - 44% (nc)
McCain - 44% (nc)

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« Reply #313 on: August 02, 2008, 12:15:24 PM »

I guess Obama didn't get his usual bounce from Friday night polling. This is interesting.
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« Reply #314 on: August 02, 2008, 02:16:24 PM »

Saturday, August 2, 2008:

Obama - 44% (nc)
McCain - 44% (nc)



I'll wait until tomorrow, but this might be the start of bad news for Obama.
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« Reply #315 on: August 02, 2008, 02:22:45 PM »

Ouch. No weekend bounce for Obama today.
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« Reply #316 on: August 02, 2008, 02:31:31 PM »

Saturday, August 2, 2008:

Obama - 44% (nc)
McCain - 44% (nc)



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« Reply #317 on: August 02, 2008, 02:33:58 PM »


Remember it is still summer and polls aren't going to show the real race until Sept.
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« Reply #318 on: August 02, 2008, 02:34:35 PM »


Remember it is still summer and polls aren't going to show the real race until Sept.

Exactly. This is when Obama is supposed to be kicking ass.
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« Reply #319 on: August 02, 2008, 02:54:28 PM »

Yeah, I remember when Reagan was barely ahead during the Summer of 1980 too. Carter's second term was great.
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« Reply #320 on: August 02, 2008, 03:13:22 PM »


Remember it is still summer and polls aren't going to show the real race until Sept.

Exactly. This is when Obama is supposed to be kicking ass.

No he's not, I think its funny, when a poll comes out that shows McCain down by 10%, you say oh its summer time things will change. But when a poll comes out with them tied, you say Oh this poll is race, Obama is going to lose because he is suppose to be up by alot. The fact is alot will change we still don't now the VPs and its Aug. We really wont now the state of the race until Sept/Oct.
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« Reply #321 on: August 02, 2008, 03:58:23 PM »

Can Conservatives please explain why an all American war hero is losing in the polls to a man with a middle name Hussein?
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« Reply #322 on: August 02, 2008, 04:01:31 PM »

Can Conservatives please explain why an all American war hero is losing in the polls to a man with a middle name Hussein?

I'm not a conservative, but I'm also not a total ignoramus, so I can.
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« Reply #323 on: August 02, 2008, 04:02:22 PM »

Yeah, I remember when Reagan was barely ahead during the Summer of 1980 too. Carter's second term was great.

When you read for me all of the controversy that surrounds Obama and then do the same for Reagan, I'll concede that that's a good point.

Can Conservatives please explain why an all American war hero is losing in the polls to a man with a middle name Hussein?

Because our party and the President in the White House who happens to be a member of our party are very unpopular.

Are you telling us that someone with the name "Hussein" should be ahead in the polls because of their name?

Also, the man with the middle name "Hussein" is leading by about a point or two in the polls. Not really a great lead.



Remember it is still summer and polls aren't going to show the real race until Sept.

Exactly. This is when Obama is supposed to be kicking ass.

No he's not, I think its funny, when a poll comes out that shows McCain down by 10%, you say oh its summer time things will change. But when a poll comes out with them tied, you say Oh this poll is race, Obama is going to lose because he is suppose to be up by alot. The fact is alot will change we still don't now the VPs and its Aug. We really wont now the state of the race until Sept/Oct.

Democrats traditonally lead during the summer months, Josh. Plus, it's clear that if Obama is Mr. Frontrunner, he shouldn't be ahead by just a point or two. This is when he should be kicking ass. Almost everyone with a clue agrees.
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« Reply #324 on: August 02, 2008, 04:07:03 PM »

We won't see much movement until the conventions and then just mini bounces.  I predict the race stays about like it is for the next three weeks. 
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