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« Reply #50 on: August 29, 2005, 09:35:13 pm »
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What's the most socially liberal Bush state now?!

Nevada!

Sounds about right. Most socially liberal swing state is Oregon, and the most socially liberal Kerry state is probably Massachusetts.

I wouldn't call Oregon a swing state - a swing state would probably be one Bush won.  Remember, you have to adjust two points.  In a tie election, Kerry "would" have won Oregon by almost seven points - hardly a swing state.
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« Reply #51 on: August 29, 2005, 09:39:42 pm »
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More of these nonsensical uniform swings? Yeah, I don't pay much attention to them.
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« Reply #52 on: August 29, 2005, 09:59:41 pm »
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What's the most socially liberal Bush state now?!

Nevada!

Sounds about right. Most socially liberal swing state is Oregon, and the most socially liberal Kerry state is probably Massachusetts.

I wouldn't call Oregon a swing state - a swing state would probably be one Bush won.  Remember, you have to adjust two points.  In a tie election, Kerry "would" have won Oregon by almost seven points - hardly a swing state.

It's called partisan index.

Here's a partisan index of all states going back to 1968

http://www.mydd.com/balance

(I know I'm using MyDD, but it is correct)
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« Reply #53 on: August 30, 2005, 01:00:42 am »
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More of these nonsensical uniform swings? Yeah, I don't pay much attention to them.

OK, but you argue that a state that voted for a Democrat by 4 points (a decent margin) in a year where Republicans won by 2 points (a small margin) is a swing state.  That is a rather liberal definition of "swing state."
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« Reply #54 on: September 16, 2005, 01:31:40 pm »
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What's the most socially liberal Bush state now?!

Nevada!

Sounds about right. Most socially liberal swing state is Oregon, and the most socially liberal Kerry state is probably Massachusetts.

I wouldn't call Oregon a swing state - a swing state would probably be one Bush won.† Remember, you have to adjust two points.† In a tie election, Kerry "would" have won Oregon by almost seven points - hardly a swing state.

Why do so many of you put so much faith in this "sway" BS?  States and regions don't vote based on a national treand (since their colmination creates that trend, the view point is acctually counter-intuitive), they vote the way they vote for individual reasons, not because of some herd mentality.  If one state, or two states decind to "buck the trend" it is not nessesarily an indication of... anything.  Various factors go into these things.
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« Reply #55 on: September 20, 2005, 02:46:00 am »
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Utah!

lol, naw, either Nevada or Florida. maybe Iowa
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« Reply #56 on: May 28, 2006, 10:52:26 pm »
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I'll go out on a limb and say my home-state of Ohio. There are a lot of social liberals around Ohio. Most of us are just staunch economic conservatives that vote accordingly.

I would say Ohio is one of the most libertarian states in the country.
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« Reply #57 on: May 28, 2006, 11:39:45 pm »
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I'll go out on a limb and say my home-state of Ohio. There are a lot of social liberals around Ohio. Most of us are just staunch economic conservatives that vote accordingly.

I would say Ohio is one of the most libertarian states in the country.

This suprises me; I've always thought of Ohio as a populist leaning state.
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« Reply #58 on: May 28, 2006, 11:51:19 pm »
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I'll go out on a limb and say my home-state of Ohio. There are a lot of social liberals around Ohio. Most of us are just staunch economic conservatives that vote accordingly.

I would say Ohio is one of the most libertarian states in the country.

This suprises me; I've always thought of Ohio as a populist leaning state.

I agree from what I've seen. Columbus and Yellow Springs areas are the only social liberal areas I can think of. The Cincy area (Tom Brinkman country) makes my county (Livingston) look almost liberal. Toledo/Cleveland/Akron/Youngstown is union country. The SE part of the state is like West Virginia. The Central/Western interior is like Indiana or West Michigan.

I don't live in Ohio though, so I'm only going on my impressions of my visits and what I've followed.

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« Reply #59 on: May 28, 2006, 11:55:27 pm »
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As for socially liberal Bush state, it's a tough call. I don't see where any socially liberal states voted for Bush. New Hampshire, Nevada, and Colorado have libertarian streaks, but I don't consider that liberal. They don't like government much, and I consider that more conservative in the 1994 sense. I'd have to go with Iowa. It's more moderate than anything else. 

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« Reply #60 on: May 28, 2006, 11:58:33 pm »
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As for socially liberal Bush state, it's a tough call. I don't see where any socially liberal states voted for Bush. New Hampshire, Nevada, and Colorado have libertarian streaks, but I don't consider that liberal. They don't like government much, and I consider that more conservative in the 1994 sense. I'd have to go with Iowa. It's more moderate than anything else. 



Technically this question refers to 2000, not 2004, and of course Bush lost Iowa in 2000. As for the states Bush won in 2000, I would probably list the same ones you mentioned (NH, NV, CO), but yeah, none are really socially liberal, and NV and CO in particular have lots of socially conservative areas.
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« Reply #61 on: May 29, 2006, 01:53:23 am »
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I'll go out on a limb and say my home-state of Ohio. There are a lot of social liberals around Ohio. Most of us are just staunch economic conservatives that vote accordingly.

I would say Ohio is one of the most libertarian states in the country.

This suprises me; I've always thought of Ohio as a populist leaning state.

I agree from what I've seen. Columbus and Yellow Springs areas are the only social liberal areas I can think of. The Cincy area (Tom Brinkman country) makes my county (Livingston) look almost liberal. Toledo/Cleveland/Akron/Youngstown is union country. The SE part of the state is like West Virginia. The Central/Western interior is like Indiana or West Michigan.

I don't live in Ohio though, so I'm only going on my impressions of my visits and what I've followed.



I spent most of my life in Cleveland, and I have to say that people there don't care too much for government regulation of personal choices and lifestyles. It is home to the rock and roll hall of fame after all Smiley

You see, you have two kinds of social liberals. You have the kind that are socially liberal in a sense that they really want to fight for their idea of freedom and really feel that social issues are pressing the country. then you have the social liberals that are in a sense that they just don't care what other people are doing.

Ohio is the latter.
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« Reply #62 on: April 05, 2010, 12:09:29 pm »
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Probably Nevada and then New Hampshire.  Florida is one of the most conservative states in the country, top 10.  Nevada everything is legal lol.  In New Hampshire, the ppl are conservative, but the laws are somewhat liberal so I would say Nevada.
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« Reply #63 on: September 28, 2012, 05:57:16 pm »
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2000: New Hampshire - only one of the Bush states that legalized same-sex marriage.
2004: Iowa - only one of the states Bush won that legalized same-sex marriage even though it was judges that required it. According to a recent poll, Iowa has one of if not the highest share of support for same-sex marriage.
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« Reply #64 on: September 30, 2012, 01:49:11 pm »
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2000: New Hampshire - only one of the Bush states that legalized same-sex marriage.
2004: Iowa - only one of the states Bush won that legalized same-sex marriage even though it was judges that required it. According to a recent poll, Iowa has one of if not the highest share of support for same-sex marriage.

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