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« on: June 05, 2008, 09:14:19 pm »
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Since the use of this forum is defunct anyway, it seems to be the perfect place for the following:

Apparently, Dick Bennett of American Research Group, of all people, had the chutzpah (Hi Harold!) to call out the person behind FiveThirtyEight.com for his predictions. Here's the reply.
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« Reply #1 on: June 06, 2008, 01:31:33 am »
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Here's a thought.

One of us, who's good at web designing, should make a site that looks like it's one of a legit polling outfit. Then, we should start making up numbers. Completely out of the blue. Just something that looks plausible. Then we write up fancy press releases and send them out to blogs and media outlets, wait for some lazy story writer to pick it up, and then it begins to spread. We'd probably get found out after a few weeks, but we'd get a kick out of it for a while.

We could also then see if we get our made up numbers more accurate than actual polling outfits (looking at you PPP, ARG and Zogby).
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« Reply #2 on: June 06, 2008, 01:33:10 am »
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American Research Strategy Experts (ARSE)? Tongue
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« Reply #3 on: June 06, 2008, 01:38:26 am »
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American Research Strategy Experts (ARSE)? Tongue

Brilliant!

If Hardball and the Situation Room put ARG polls out there as legitimate polls, I don't see why they shouldn't put us.
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« Reply #4 on: June 09, 2008, 12:33:01 am »
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Here's a thought.

One of us, who's good at web designing, should make a site that looks like it's one of a legit polling outfit. Then, we should start making up numbers. Completely out of the blue. Just something that looks plausible. Then we write up fancy press releases and send them out to blogs and media outlets, wait for some lazy story writer to pick it up, and then it begins to spread. We'd probably get found out after a few weeks, but we'd get a kick out of it for a while.

We could also then see if we get our made up numbers more accurate than actual polling outfits (looking at you PPP, ARG and Zogby).

This actually makes sense.

Alcon, it's your job to register the domain.
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« Reply #5 on: June 09, 2008, 04:28:12 pm »
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I'm in Smiley
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« Reply #6 on: June 09, 2008, 04:29:33 pm »
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So am I Smiley
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« Reply #7 on: June 09, 2008, 04:31:41 pm »
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I'd definitely do it.
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« Reply #8 on: June 09, 2008, 04:53:23 pm »
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Count me in. ARSE is too obvious, though; the media loves acronyms and would pick up on it right away. Something generic would work better; say, the >deleted<

We don't even have to make up numbers that look implausible; being more accurate than ARG would be fun Smiley

Domain time, guys.
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« Reply #9 on: June 09, 2008, 04:54:42 pm »
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I'm working on it Smiley
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« Reply #10 on: June 09, 2008, 04:59:32 pm »
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I'm in for sure.
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« Reply #11 on: June 09, 2008, 07:45:25 pm »
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I suggest AlcHitlre PM all the conspirators once a domain is acquired, so that news media types who Google the name of our erstwhile polling institute will not so the Atlas Forum as the first hit.

Also, I move that the numbers we come up with be based on the average of recent polls, with standard deviation factored in; I know it as the function RandNorm on my calculator, which apparently generates a "normal-distributed random number".
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« Reply #12 on: June 09, 2008, 07:57:00 pm »
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I suggest AlcHitlre PM all the conspirators once a domain is acquired, so that news media types who Google the name of our erstwhile polling institute will not so the Atlas Forum as the first hit

That's what I did.  Didn't you get it? Tongue
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« Reply #13 on: June 09, 2008, 08:11:39 pm »
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I suggest AlcHitlre PM all the conspirators once a domain is acquired, so that news media types who Google the name of our erstwhile polling institute will not so the Atlas Forum as the first hit

That's what I did.  Didn't you get it? Tongue

I didn't.
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« Reply #14 on: June 09, 2008, 08:54:23 pm »
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I would like to join this conspiracy as well, provided that it doesn't actually require me to do any work.  Wink
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« Reply #15 on: June 09, 2008, 09:10:16 pm »
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I suggest AlcHitlre PM all the conspirators once a domain is acquired, so that news media types who Google the name of our erstwhile polling institute will not so the Atlas Forum as the first hit

That's what I did.  Didn't you get it? Tongue

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I did at an unrelated time see that I had a new PM, and now you have one Smiley  Note I may have too much fun with the "assuming a new identity" portion of this Wink
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« Reply #16 on: June 09, 2008, 10:49:30 pm »
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How come I didn't get one? Cry
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« Reply #17 on: June 10, 2008, 07:20:02 am »
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I didn't get one either, in fact.
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« Reply #18 on: June 11, 2008, 11:05:06 pm »
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I want in
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« Reply #19 on: June 11, 2008, 11:15:12 pm »
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Dick Bennett's clients must be getting antsy.

You have to give ARG credit for polling SD though. They completely reversed the conventional wisdom on that state in about 48 hours.
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« Reply #20 on: June 13, 2008, 03:47:53 am »
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I want in too.  I wonder if we could just post some threads about how wink-wink-nudge amazing this poll firm is without having kids ruin it with all of their wtfs.  Alas
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« Reply #21 on: June 13, 2008, 03:40:22 pm »
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When will we be able to start this?
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« Reply #22 on: June 16, 2008, 01:52:37 am »
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When will we be able to start this?

Soon.
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« Reply #23 on: June 16, 2008, 07:38:56 pm »
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When will we be able to start this?

Soon.

Good; I call Virginia.
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« Reply #24 on: June 17, 2008, 01:19:02 am »
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There already is a test one for Washington. It looks really professional.
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